Article: The Music In Me: Rap of History Backwards The

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapping

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So did Sun Ra make music?  If so, was it Jazz?

 

 

We will cover Varese later on...  after Phil Lesh's favorite guy...

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14 hours ago, DaQi said:

Ha ha, I think you are all wrong. Rap was invented two thousand years ago in China. When I lived in China I encountered a traditional style of music where the performer uses clappers to create a beat box style of rhythm and then proceeds to rap to it. Particularly popular in Shandong province this has been around for two thousand years. Not sure how it made the jump to become an African American protest music in the early 70s.

 

Wu Tang Clan?

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9 hours ago, ShawnC said:

Don't let the cast of Hamilton hear this.  

 

We must all consider what would result if the favorite president of our Orange Overlord was to have a hip-hop musical written about him.

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he'd have to use swear words from Jackson's time, and Southern mealey-mouthed words, not Ebonics.

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2 hours ago, Speed Racer said:

Sure. As soon you all let DRB100 have his own opinion without being told he is wrong.

 

It is not that his opinions are wrong, it is the premises that his opinions are drawn from.

 

ANd I don't like rap either - but I recognize it's truth, it's innovation, and the great sound tracks done by Chuck D.

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Ebonics has some superior abilities over std. English - e.g the ability to indicate a state of being, which English lacks.

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1 hour ago, DRB100 said:

Ummm.  Really? OK.. Example?  

 

Are you a native English speaker?  Or have reading difficulties?

 

Here is my post again:

"Ebonics has some superior abilities over std. English - e.g the ability to indicate a state of being, which English lacks."

 

The term e.g. means (in English) "example given".  That is ("i.e.") the example is given right after the term e.g.

 

You can use Google to help you find some statements by linguists on the abilities of Ebonics, and what a "state of being" is in a language.  

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I used to read Shakespeare because of the foul language and I still love it

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he appears unacquainted with Shakespeare (or the christian bible)

 

maybe we can move on to more devil music.... like Funk

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Thou whoeson lump of foul deformity, villain, I have done thy mother

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The  Luminaries are rappers (or hip-hop music makers) who don't seem to use foul language - not I particularly care for rap or their music all that much...

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2 hours ago, DRB100 said:

 

Do you mean Luminaries to rappers that put out foul language rap?  

 

I'm sorry but if you can rewrite that I'll try to answer.

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22 minutes ago, DRB100 said:

What point are you trying to make?

 

read the post just above it for the main point

 

the secondary point is about sampling

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may I suggest that the people who created rap were angry before they created it?

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8 hours ago, Ralf11 said:

The  Luminaries are rappers (or hip-hop music makers) who don't seem to use foul language - not I particularly care for rap or their music all that much...

 

 

name of a group

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On 7/9/2017 at 9:31 PM, DRB100 said:

But are any of them able to play a musical instrument at a proficient level?  Can any of them sing proficiently?  

 

that wasn't the question -- but why not listen to them?

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what about composers?

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The Blues is dirty, baby - Dirty DIRTY

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15 hours ago, DRB100 said:

Th music or the lyrics?   You know, some of are listening to the music, and not the lyrics.   

Dirty?  Well, that's YOUR opinion.  And what do YOU recommend?    Let's see where your musical tastes are.     I know some of the really early stuff was pretty nasty, but I don't listen to those recordings.  The more popular blues stuff didn't have vastly language.  it might have had some metaphors, but any adult would take that with a grain of salt.   But the foul language rap is just disgusting crap far worse than the blues I've listened to. But I also focused mostly on the playing, not the lyrics.  I would rather listen to the guitarist play a great solo and great swing/feel to the rhythm.

But it sounds like you just don't know what to listen for.  You haven't displayed anything other than putting things down with not much substance behind it.  So I don't know where you're coming from.

 

 

chill the personal attacks drubbie

 

for you, I recommend punk and funk

 

to loosen you up

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there is an story I heard that when Africans first heard Europeon classical music they thought it was too simplistic and boring