Official TIDAL HIFI Streaming Issues Thread

[wklie]

My issue is that i'm noticing a sort of distortion in the high frequency range on many tracks on Tidal.

 

Is this similar to what you hear?

Universal’s Audible Watermark | Matt Montag

 

For those tracks you found to have distortion, do they all belong to Universal or Sony?

 

Can you confirm your setup is getting the lossless stream instead of the lossy stream from Tidal?

[wklie]

On behalf of LUMIN Music, I've generated a spreadsheet of Tidal Masters MQA list with 3315 albums:

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T0xnOzPQZai32L7R7e_uzxfBqhXrPuXh3USOjvuztYg/edit?usp=sharing

[wklie]

9 hours ago, Gerrit Friderichsohn said:

I am looking forward to streaming Tidal/MQA to a new LG V30. But, I am just a little skeptical that they will not take months to do this flawlessly.

 

I think V30 is interesting.  What's unclear to me is how V30 actually gets the 24-bit MQA version of Tidal Masters album to stream.  If I'm not mistaken, the official Tidal smartphone apps get the 16-bit non-MQA version even if a Masters album is chosen.  So either Tidal changes its app to unlock a MQA mode only for V30 in the Android app (which is not too likely), or LG writes their own app to get the Tidal MQA stream (which is not mentioned in press release I've read - if their specs include native Tidal support I guess they should mention it).

 

In the worst case, if a device only supports purchased MQA downloads but not Tidal MQA, then the usefulness is severely limited.

[wklie]

8 hours ago, wklie said:

In the worst case, if a device only supports purchased MQA downloads but not Tidal MQA, then the usefulness is severely limited.

 

http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2017/09/ifa-2017-hi-res-audio-for-the-mass-market-with-lg-sony-ifi/

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The LG V30 is expected to start shipping in October 2017 for around €700.

At time of writing, MQA decoding and rendering only applies to locally-stored MQA files.

 

 

[wklie]

It means the MQA decoder runs on the Qualcomm CPU with rendering parameters tuned for the Quad DAC ES9218P.

[wklie]

On 8/29/2017 at 3:38 PM, wklie said:

On behalf of LUMIN Music, I've generated a spreadsheet of Tidal Masters MQA list:

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T0xnOzPQZai32L7R7e_uzxfBqhXrPuXh3USOjvuztYg/edit?usp=sharing

 

Spreadsheet is updated to contain 3446 albums.

[wklie]

On 8/29/2017 at 3:38 PM, wklie said:

On behalf of LUMIN Music, I've generated a spreadsheet of Tidal Masters MQA list with 3315 albums:

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T0xnOzPQZai32L7R7e_uzxfBqhXrPuXh3USOjvuztYg/edit?usp=sharing

 

Spreadsheet is updated to 3560 albums.

[wklie]

Tidal stuttering problems are regional.  In most cases (for people with wired connection to the Internet) it is not related to how much bandwidth the user has.

[wklie]

On 5/24/2021 at 1:38 PM, PJ4301 said:

 

I tested the first track of this album from Tidal and it's fully decoding MQA correctly in our Lumin hardware and app.

 

By the way, I believe the posts above describe a different problem from another non-MQA streamer brand who has recently lost access to 24-bit Tidal Master quality, as I see a user of it mistakenly linked here while discussing that.

[wklie]

Also tested the same track with Roon Build 795, getting MQA 96kHz as expected.

[wklie]

To prove (or disprove) @Cebolla hypothesis above, @PJ4301 please make a copy of your purchased MQA track, delete all tags from it using mp3tag software (or others).  Then retry the MQA playback of this non-tagged track.

 

[wklie]

@ecwl

I guess skipping should be a different problem from the tag-dependent behavior discussed above.

 

Please test playback of local MQA files downloaded from 2L website above, which should work.

 

Then remove the tags, and retry.  See if this:

1. Play or skip

2. If it plays, whether MQA indicator is shown

[wklie]

@PJ4301Your app update did not solve the problem because the app merely allowed you to browse and add Tidal tracks to the network module (renderer).  The app does not actually do the decoding in a normal UPnP architecture.  The decoding is done in the network module for your hardware.

[wklie]

Does anyone experience Tidal Android app crash upon login or relaunching the app?