AV-OCD Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I listen to a lot of pop, rock, electronic music with limited dynamic range, but I've recently gotten on this kick with dynamics and I'm looking for some suggestions on recordings that have that "jump factor" that is often talked about. Genre of music doesn't matter, though it would be nice if the music you recommend can be sampled on the web somewhere. It would also be helpful if you could describe the sort of dynamic range to be expected and/or where to expect the dynamic moments in the recording. This should be easy if you have an SPL meter. I'm envisioning comments like, "at 63 seconds in, there is a trumpet solo that averages 75dB with peaks of 95dB." Remember to set the SPL meter to the "fast" setting. If that last part is too inconvenient, please still post a recommendation if you have one. Thanks in advance! Cheers,[br] - Tim Link to comment
glt Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Most DMP and Chesky recordings (mostly jazz). But to get good dynamic range really means moving the bottom down (the soft passages are soft) www.hifiduino.wordpress.com Link to comment
AV-OCD Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 .... that stand out on those labels? I just sampled a couple of the tacks from Audiophile Jazz Prologue / Kent Poon on the Design w Sound web site, and I think those are a good start. The vocals on the Lush Life track have a nice bite to them on the high notes. Cheers,[br] - Tim Link to comment
Mr.C Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Not from those labels, but: "The Rite of Spring" by Stravinsky. Awesome, with great dynamics throughout. There aren't so many specific parts as the whole thing engages you and has some great punches to it. "Fanfare for the Common Man" by Copland. The whole thing builds with dynamics and added harmonies. "Try a Little Tenderness" off of the Commitments soundtrack. Respighi: "Roman Festivals - 1. Circenses" Mars by Holst. Those come to mind. Link to comment
John Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Some ideas from memory, not measured: Andy's Chest from Lou Reed's Transformer album (about 1 minute in). ELP's pictures at an exhibition (first theme after the promenade). Shostakovitch symphony no 10 in lot's of places. Rainbow live on stage in lot's of places. Angels have Fallen, from Kansas' Monolith album, chorus vs verse. Arctic Monkeys, Favourite Worst Nightmare Album. (This one is loud and louder rather than soft and loud but many of the drum hits come out of a silent background so even thought the CD is badly compressed it still packs a punch). Of course, for best dynamic effect try listening to them with a low output moving coil cartridge ;-). - John. Link to comment
AV-OCD Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 For the Classical recommendations, can you guys provide specific Director / Orchestra / label info? I know that the quality of these performances / recordings can vary widely and I want to pick the best ones. I have "Rite of Spring" on the Phillips label, and the dynamics are OK, but I think the recording could be better. Cheers,[br] - Tim Link to comment
mpmct Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 This one does it for me ... "Stravinski, The Rite of Spring, Lorin Maazel, Cleveland, Telarc CD-80054 (powerful bass, fierce brass, spectacular)" http://www.amazon.com/Stravinsky-Rite-Spring-Igor/dp/B0000251LY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1237320133&sr=8-1 Also, FWIW, I've picked a up a few others like the one above from this list and haven't been disappointed: http://www.linkwitzlab.com/music.htm Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Bolero from Reference Recordings = Fabulous! 24/96 downloadable from HDtracks.com Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
ted_b Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Cowboy Junkies White off Earth Now. This 1986 recording was done with a single Calrec Ambisonic microphone, and the whole album sizzles and has electricity in the air, like hearing a Marshall amp live. the dynamics on cut 2, State trooper, about a minute 15 seconds in, had a bunch of folks jumping at RMAF when we played it. It's a great recording with great takes on blues/rock classics. It's been re-released as a hybrid SACD by MFSL. "We're all bozos on this bus"....F.T. My JRIver tutorial videos Actual JRIver tutorial MP4 video links My eleven yr old SACD Ripping Guide for PS3 (needs updating but still works) US Technical Advisor, NativeDSD.com Link to comment
John Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 For the Shostakovitch, I recommend Berlin Philharmonic / Karajan / Deutsche Grammophon on CD. If you are not into this piece - just download the second movement, if you can, to try it out. DG sells it as a 16/44.1 FLAC. I have 2 Rites of spring: Berlin Philharmonic / Karajan / Deutsche Grammophon on CD and Chicago Symphony Orchestra / Solti / Decca on Vinyl. They both rock. One more suggestion: Hard Headed Woman from Cat Stevens' Tea for the Tillerman. - John. Link to comment
AV-OCD Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 Thanks again to all that have replied, this list is shaping up nicely. Chris C. - I got 5 different albums when I searched HD tracks for "Bolero". I don't see any that were recorded at 24/96. Would you please specify the Artist or give me a direct link? How do I view the sampling rate of the recordings on that site? Mpmct - Thanks for the link to Telarc recording and even more for reminding me again of what a wealth of knowledge that Linkwitz site is. :-) John - thanks for the follow-up! Cheers,[br] - Tim Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Wow, I feel quite stupid for that one. I was almost positive this one was available at 24/96, but I was wrong. Try this one from Dallas Wind Symphony. Track 8 is my favorite. It's all 24/96. http://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=catalogdetail&valbum_code=HD030911111229 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
markr Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Here is one that spins my wingnuts: Stravinsky Firebird & Petrushka by Leopold Stokowski Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra. Available right now at: http://www.highdeftapetransfers.com/category/58/ - 24/96 markr Link to comment
AV-OCD Posted March 19, 2009 Author Share Posted March 19, 2009 Chris - Based on your general "Bolero" recommendation, I purchased a CD quality version of this one from HDtracks.com. http://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=catalogdetail&valbum_code=030911109226 It's awesome! Most of my current classical stuff has a muted / distant sound to it, like the mics were placed in the back of the hall. Not this one. Very up-front, crisp, and dynamic. The violins and brass have a nice bite to them when the orchestra is going full throttle. I'm listening to it as I write this, and I just reached the 14:50 mark on track 4 (Litz: Les Preludes) and holy cr@p, the kettle drums just blew up my room! I'm running a JL Audio F112 subwoof that's getting hammered right now. ;-) Even though it is "only" a 44.1 recording, I recommend it highly. Cheers,[br] - Tim Link to comment
AV-OCD Posted March 19, 2009 Author Share Posted March 19, 2009 Markr - Thanks for the link. I have a Telarc recording of Firebird that I forgot about. I'll have to give that a listen an see if I can do better with yours. Seems like it is certainly worth the risk at only $6 for the download. Cheers,[br] - Tim Link to comment
mpmct Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Tim, Forgot about a couple of others I have that knock my socks off in terms of realistic and dramatic dynamic range. "FROM THE AGE OF SWING" and "SWING IS HERE!" both Dick Hyman. Besides dynamics, they are otherwise some of the best, most 'live' recordings I happen to own ... http://www.referencerecordings.com/JAZZ.asp Link to comment
BobH Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 Coope Boyes & Simpson and Wak Maar Proper, Christmas Truce / Kerstbestand Male a capella group Coope, Boyes & Simpson performing with Dutch 'world' choir Wak Maar Proper. A glorious choral work based around songs from the Great War. http://www.amazon.com/Kerstbestand-Christmas-Truce-Coope/dp/B00003W0WT/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1237501060&sr=8-11 The Voice Squad - Holly Wood. Male a capella trio again, some live tracks, beautifully sung and recorded. http://www.amazon.com/Holly-Wood-Voice-Squad/dp/B0001902F8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1237501468&sr=1-2 Link to comment
bevan Posted March 19, 2009 Share Posted March 19, 2009 The Mephisto CD from Reference Recordings is also really good for dynamics. I have the Bolero one as well, but I really like the Saint Saens track on Mephisto. You can even hear someone take a breath before playing a big note. I'd say the Mephisto make my all time top 5. Another great thread for more leads on music, Tim. Link to comment
AV-OCD Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 Bevan - Is this the one? http://www.referencerecordings.com/minnesota.asp#rr82 Cheers,[br] - Tim Link to comment
daglesj Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 .......get a copy of Scott Walker's Tilt. Place it in the CD player. Have the amp set to a decent level of volume. Sit back in a perfectly quiet room, settle down, enjoy the moment. Press play.........close your eyes ....and wait. You wont regret it. Meridian 551 amp / Meridian 507 CD / Zune Mk1 Link to comment
AV-OCD Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 OK, I'll throw one in here to give back to the community. "Unmarked Road" by Doug MacLeod http://www.amazon.com/Unmarked-Road-Doug-MacLeod/dp/B000003HL9/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1237508722&sr=1-5 An exceptional recording and surprisingly dynamic for what is one man singing the blues and playing a steel guitar. Cheers,[br] - Tim Link to comment
bevan Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 That's the one, Tim. Check it out, if you get the opportunity... If that kinda music suits your taste. Link to comment
radar2886 Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 I would add Hugh Masakala's Hope. Most people probably know about the last cut from the Burmesister demo cd, but the whole album is awesome and dynamic as all get out. I have the 45 rpm re-issue, and I think they also did an SACD version. ADM9.1s ,2.0 Ghz Mac Mini, Panasonic BD-35 blu-ray player. Link to comment
AV-OCD Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 Markr - I downloaded the FLAC file of Stravinsky Firebird from highdeftapetransfers and it is more a more dynamic presentation of Firebird than the Telarc recording I have. Thanks for that. It is however a noisier recording, I assume because it was transfered off of tape. Still the performance and the dynamics make up for it. I also ordered Cowboy Junkies, Schostakowitsch: Symphonie No. 10, Stravinsky: The Rite of Spring (Telarc) all thanks to you guys. I'll keep this thread bookmarked so that when I have had the chance to listen to my new stuff I can order up some more. Oh, I also ordered "Air" Claude Debussy & Toru Takemitsu which was recommended by stereophile as a dynamic recording or harp music, if you can imagine that. Should be interesting. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001FWRYV0 Cheers,[br] - Tim Link to comment
markr Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 .. a slightly noisy recording but it is only noticeable in a few spots, and I think that is due in large part to the fact that it is such a dynamic piece. I believe that this was recorded in 1950 however, so I cut it some slack in that respect. I don't believe that it has much to do with the fact that it is transferred from tape though. I could be wrong on that. I really love the piece and the performance - performance is 2/3 of the 'pudding' when searching out the classics, don't you think? The Petrushka is an equally good performance IMO. I'm glad you enjoy it! regards, markr Link to comment
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