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1 minute ago, idiot_savant said:

But I thought accessing RAM was noisy?

 

Not my words.

Accessing the wrong RAM is noisy (ECC).

 

But if you know a means to avoid RAM, tell me by PM please. It would be a huge secret I would like to keep among us.

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5 minutes ago, March Audio said:

What utter nonsense.  Is this like the "no one uses SSDs because they sound awful" comment you made the other day?

 

Oh, him again.

I had hoped you were gone.

 

Btw, Yes indeed mr know-it-all.

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5 minutes ago, idiot_savant said:

Well, I'm not the one saying RAM is noisy.

 

I'm just the one confused about how some kinds of access are noisier than others

 

All access is noisy. Noisy for ground-plane coupling in over at the DAC from all sorts of angles and backdoors and direct lines including galvanically isolated ones. From there the least what happens is oscillator influence, hence jitter. And there we have it.

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5 minutes ago, March Audio said:

Got any evidence to back up either claim?

 

OMG. Well, the one is that you seem to be lively there:

 

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and for the other you can read a full forum with shyt.

1000s of recurring customers feel like a nice backup. And I don't count the cable ones (hey, a good one for you because these are about shielding !!).

 

Further more

 

22 minutes ago, March Audio said:

What utter nonsense.  Is this like the "no one uses SSDs because they sound awful" comment you made the other day?

 

you twisted my words somewhat, but if you again start being more heavy on the wanking, ... the other day I asked you whether any of the products you sell have been created by you. There was no answer. Now, you could attest that this is irrelevant, but since we apparently need to listen to you and not to me, it is relevant. There's nothing in the audio chain I don't design or produce in-house, except for power cables. And if that were utter nonsense, I think we should be able to find some real testimonials of that.

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11 minutes ago, idiot_savant said:

So my contention is that there are huge amounts of access that you have no control over, and a *very* small amount that you can.

 

That could be correct. And I say this genuinely because give me a new 6 months and something new will have emerged improving again (eh, vastly). This can only happen if boatloads are still present.

Btw, I am going to invest constellations (which btw is true for noise source that may let computers fail (falling stars)).

 

12 minutes ago, idiot_savant said:

So why are we introducing this noise-ridden thing into our precious listening rooms then?

 

I'm afraid you must help me on that one. What do you mean ?

OK, you mean the playback PC itself, right ? well, because everything else is worse ? (I recall to be a first with "network player" experiments instead of CDP, although Squeezebox was there too at the same time.

Not that money is telling, but I came from a Teac P1 transport. And mind you, people these days are still claiming CDP transports to sound better than PC's. But then people also try to tell that Vinyl is the way to go.

 

Nobody said it is easy and in fact I claim (all over the place) that it is mighty difficult to let sound digital right (as in: surpasses vinyl by many audio miles).  One thing: where needed I /Phasure can supply the whole shebang. But this thread is not about that.

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11 minutes ago, idiot_savant said:

small:  176.4kbytes/second.

 

Audio words. 2x 32 bits. And it is quite common to have that at 705.6 (768) these days.

I don't like to be your pain.

 

12 minutes ago, idiot_savant said:

Huge: 2Gbytes/second

 

Maybe I should ask someone in the room over here what he thinks about this (with his current course "Terra Hz systems".

All is relative.

Sadly, it is such idiotic bandwidths I wok with myself.  6MHz interlink -0.5dB over 130 meters.

Oh, especially for March Audio: Single Ended coax.

 

Of course I am crazy !

But if it improves sound, no matter it implies a theoretical spitting of HF only ...

Ah wait, this brings be to the subject of (March Audio's) slew rate again. ... Yes, and that at a DAC's slew rate of 2000V/us.

If you want more I can spit more. I never stop. 

 

If I only could be banned.

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8 minutes ago, idiot_savant said:

and then have to keep plugging and unplugging screens etc whenever I want to switch tasks?

 

Huh ?

Time for a break !

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13 minutes ago, idiot_savant said:

and then have to keep plugging and unplugging screens etc whenever I want to switch tasks?

 

Apologies, I only now see the context (Manuel's post) ...

 

RDC man, RDC !

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14 minutes ago, March Audio said:

I suppose you think that the quality is stuffed before we replay it at home?

 

Erm, I'm afraid, Yes. Here, this could be a good read and don't hesitate to learn something from the mastering engineers in there.

Btw, the pictures have vanished, so I'll show you in here what this is about:

 

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including washing machine noise. :-)

 

You wont be able to distinguish the recording of this from the real thing, which obviously can be listened to over here subsequently. This includes the feel in the stomach of mainly the kick drum.

 

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6 minutes ago, idiot_savant said:

RDC? Is that some kind of remote desktop ( like RDP? ) Frankly, I find those things extremely unsatisfactory.

 

Maybe you like Zoom better. Or Teams. Hahaha.

I really wouldn't know what's unsatisfactory about it. I'm using it the whole day long. OK, not today - today I am wasting my time on some (certainly not you). Audio dev machine is downstairs (basement) somewhere - no screen. Audio PC is in the room - no screen. Office PC's are in the office - screen Yes. Customer's machines, all WTS/Citrix. No screens obviously.

And I ? I am siting behind a small wall of over 2meters of screen. This here, that there, Alt-Tab such, audio sniff mweh.

 

10 minutes ago, idiot_savant said:

And isn't all this "noise" transferred mysteriously via EMC or RF?

 

It is. I mentioned cables and I mentioned shields. And those too came from my hands (partly inspired by members of this forum, greatly inspired by people who were inspired by John Swenson's ideas (which are quite 100% the same as mine - about noise).

What I did was making the ^ cables configurable. Of course certain people will debunk that in this thread, but you could also envision a reason for 2K+ people using them by now.

You know your stuff ...

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9 minutes ago, Racerxnet said:

Are you suggesting they are playing while the washer and dryer are running?

 

Of course not. That was making fun.

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17 minutes ago, Racerxnet said:

How do you tame all the noise from the onboard switching power supplys from the MB manufacturer. 

 

You can't. But we must wonder whether it is about those. I have no real evidence of that. And people over at Phasure really tried in this realm (in vain, if you'd ask me).

But the audio playing PC itself and its main (Linear) PSU are of vast importance. More important than a DAC these days.

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1 minute ago, March Audio said:

I'm lost.  You show pictures of a totally amateur studio trying to make some kind of point? 

 

You are not making any sense.

 

How many times do I need to tell you that you have a comprehension problem. Just READ. And follow the link, of course. And again READ.

Your comprehension problem includes making up things in your mind. Now you saw an amateur studio ! Hey, spread the word !!

 

Since I am not banned, I give up. You are a total waste of everyone's time.

Have fun. Or better: good night. It must be late for you. bye.gif.fbd2203362644ae43d9611bc75b0d7a9.gif

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4 hours ago, March Audio said:

It's obvious that as this thread is contrary to yours and peters views (and peters interests)

 

4 hours ago, March Audio said:

Peter has called me a wanker

 

You are.

 

I like to point out that I never ever be the first with saying such things. It is always a response-to. Look, you just did it again.

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