Boulez / Vienna Mahler 6 Esoteric SACD

[Darryl R]

Has anyone heard it yet?

 

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EDIT: will post next time in the Analysis Forum.

[Darryl R]

1 hour ago, Kal Rubinson said:

The Bernstein/Vienna is a mediocre recording, at best, but the overwhelming performance makes that fact fairly irrelevant. 

 

Funny, I was just asking myself why Esoteric couldn't have chosen the Bernstein.  Indeed I saw a post on HRAudio confirming from the notes that the Boulez is a 16/44 upsample.  I've generally found the Esoterics preferable to the DG RBCDs (a recent case in point being the Böhm/VPO Beethoven 6/Schubert 5).

 

I have several of the APO SACDs in my collection, replacing many of the early RCA LS SACD releases.  But I also have a number of Esoterics I like too.  For DG, most of the time, but not always, they are superseded by Emil Berliner remasters of the original.  Hopefully EBS will  do the Bernstein soon.

 

For those interested, here is a copy of the EBS tonemeister's comments about this release, posted on HRAudio:

 

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Rainer Maillard of Emil Berliner Studios was the Tonmeister on this recording, so I emailed him asking him about how it was recorded. His reply: "The recording was done in 4-track on a Nagra-D (24 bit). But I only edited a 16-bit version for CD at the time using Sony DAE 3000. If there would be a real remastering by Esoteric, they would have to use the original 4-track tapes and have reedited and remixed the work (they would need the score with the edit marks too)." He also said this about DG's 4D system: "The bit length of the converter and the recording medium weren't the same for a few years. In the beginning we used 19, 21 and later 23 bit ADC in combination with noise shaping technology and the Sony PCM 1630 [16 bit] recording system....We recorded 24 bit in multitrack much earlier than in 2-track, because we modified our Sony 3324 from 24 track/16 bit to 16 track/24 bit first....Please be aware that converting, recording, editing, mixing, mastering and archiving in 24bit all have their own specific developments. The whole 24 bit chain was not ready at one moment. It took some years (and a lot of money) to get everything together."

 

[Darryl R]

4 hours ago, sphinxsix said:

How about Ivan Fischer/BFO version - IMO a very good performance and great SQ.?

 

Yes, got it and like it.  For hi-res, also fond of the Levine/Boston.

 

 

 

I picked up this one, but haven't heard it yet:

 

 

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[Darryl R]

3 hours ago, Kal Rubinson said:

Dunno but I don't bother much with remasterings, except in very rare cases.

 

I keep a close eye on them.  Rainer Maillard, whose quote I posted earlier, has done some excellent hi-res work on a number of Karajan/BPO classics in the past few years.  There have also been some very successful, second-time DSD remasterings of great Szell/Cleveland recordings, just to name a few of the orchestral giants.  All of the above coming from retail sources in Japan, a mix of DSD and PCM.

[Darryl R]

I didn't remember the SQ of the LB/VPO M6 being that bad, but since it had been several years since I heard it, I gave it another listen.  I'm finding it one of the better RBCDs I've heard in a while.  Maybe it's that the MSB DAC does such a good job with RB.

[Darryl R]

On 1/18/2021 at 6:06 AM, sphinxsix said:

OT: Bernstein/Vienna Mahler 5th is also very interesting.. wow..

 

Had a chance to hear the new one?

 

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