Differences in sound: DAC vs. DAC + Pre-amplifier

[wklie]

On 6/5/2020 at 2:43 AM, barrows said:

I am a bit taken aback by the false statement in the 6Moons amp review that Lumin is the "pioneer of DSD streaming"!  I guess this reviewer needs to do a little more homework before making such untruthful statements.

 

To the best of my knowledge, Lumin was the first network player to add DSD support to UPnP network streaming back in 2012.  We ran into several difficulties.  UPnP media servers at that time would not even stream DSD files.  So we supported DoP file as well - and we contributed to the preparation of DoP file.  (Now Roon refuses to support DoP files, so we have Lumin users with DoP files finding that Roon would not play them.)

 

If you can let me know which product directly supported DSD over UPnP network playback in 2012 or before that, I'd appreciate it.

[wklie]

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Roon supports DoP only as an output format to DAC.  Not DoP file.

https://community.roonlabs.com/t/playback-issues-with-176khz-dop-files-on-lumin-d2/103296/13?u=wklie

 

 

[wklie]

32 minutes ago, barrows said:

I must admit I am not aware of a Lumin Renderer available here in the US in 2012.  Can you educate me with some of Lumins' history?

 

We have a 100-page thread here started in 2012, our Lumin Firmware History web page also started in 2012, and Chris posted a review for us in August 2013.  Network playback of DSD has been available in our initial firmware in 2012.

 

Since Leedh Processing Volume was discussed here, I'll say this.  I have no need to defend its SQ.  I prefer to leave this to our users' reports.