GentooPlayer

[mavwong]

My side do not have issue with I2S as well with directa. I suggest you use a good DDC that may solve your issue. (means RPI directta usb to DDC and out to I2S).

[crm75]

Thank you all for the replies regarding Diretta on GP. 🤩

I would prefer using it with I2S because my transport is a RPi based and enhanced with Ian Canada FIFO Q7, HDMI-Pro and UcPure and of course I prefer using I2S input of my DAC.

@Badd99 are you saying Diretta on USB is better than I2S in terms of SQ or just it is easier to setup?

 

I am using a Intel NUC (i7,16GB RAM) as server (Ubuntu with Roon Core / Daphile-LMS) and a RPi transport as I said earlier (picoreplayer - squeezelite).

Even with Roon I am not using RATT, but Roon-squeezebox option enabled and picoreplayer as endpoind and the SQ is pretty good. I also use LMS instead of ROON, very good SQ also.

I am wondering if it could be SQ benefits if I will use GP on both server (NUC) and transport (RPi) using Diretta.  

@antonellocaroli Is it possible in GP to setup a Roon Core and Diretta Host on the same server? But LMS and Diretta Host?

  

[mavwong]

I am doing LMS + Diretta host on same RPI4b. see my sig. But I now I am experimenting separating them (meaning total of 3 rpi4b, one LMS, one host, one target)

 

[antonellocaroli]

12 minutes ago, crm75 said:

I am wondering if it could be SQ benefits if I will use GP on both server (NUC) and transport (RPi) using Diretta.  

@antonellocaroli Is it possible in GP to setup a Roon Core and Diretta Host on the same server? But LMS and Diretta Host?

Nothing forbids you to try, the trial is free... and decide...

[Badd99]

10 hours ago, mavwong said:

My side do not have issue with I2S as well with directa. I suggest you use a good DDC that may solve your issue. (means RPI directta usb to DDC and out to I2S).

This is not i2s. This is usb. Using a ddc is usb to i2s which is what I do. These are very different things. Using a ddc is not native i2s. 

 

I also use Ian Canada ucpure FIFOq7 ect and I use his new receiver pi ddc for usb to i2s and that works well. I am talking ease of setup. Without the ddc, it was finicky with the fiopi. 

[Dandou]

From my experience, Diretta works very well with an I2S Target running GentooPlayer. 

It's the case for me with two I2S streamers: Holo Red, and PI2AES. 

 

 

@crm75 , Diretta does improve the sound quality for most of us. 

You can try it for free, and use it for free as long as you play 44.1 kHz tracks. 

[chrisc]

I'd really like to install an M.2 hard disc in a Mercury Pi2 and store music on it

 

Does Gentooplayer permit this, and what is the procedure ?

 

I hope this is not a big ask.  If not practical, please say so

[congofather]

37 minutes ago, chrisc said:

I'd really like to install an M.2 hard disc in a Mercury Pi2 and store music on it

 

Does Gentooplayer permit this, and what is the procedure ?

 

I hope this is not a big ask.  If not practical, please say so

https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/pi2-design-idiot-proof-ready-to-go-rpi-aes-streamer.10471/page-57#post-409318  . There are several posts related with it in Mercury Streamer thread.

 

https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/pi2-design-idiot-proof-ready-to-go-rpi-aes-streamer.10471/page-49#post-400105

 

and  the oldest post was provided for Moode. But it's similar..

https://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/pi2-design-idiot-proof-ready-to-go-rpi-aes-streamer.10471/page-30#post-379113

[chrisc]

Thanks.  I had already read that post and got the impression that it was not working as expected

 

There are references to command-line instruction.  When a monitor is connected to the Mercury, the boot sequence is shown.

 

How do you log into this interface to for example, mount a disc? 

[congofather]

23 minutes ago, chrisc said:

Thanks.  I had already read that post and got the impression that it was not working as expected

 

There are references to command-line instruction.  When a monitor is connected to the Mercury, the boot sequence is shown.

 

How do you log into this interface to for example, mount a disc? 

I have added the URLs of some other posts above. 

 

You can refer to the help page for Gentooplayer

http://YOUR_Gentooplayer_IP_ADDRESS:5000/WI/mount.html

 

and the actual page for configuration is 

http://YOUR_Gentooplayer_IP_ADDRESS:5000/index.html#/Mount%20Local%20Disk

 

23 minutes ago, chrisc said:

How do you log into this interface to for example, mount a disc? 

 

I have mounted remote ssd drive from Synology NAS. In order to do this, I edited manually /etc/fstab from the commandline using ssh. It uses CIFS  protocol to mount remote ssd drive with right permissions. If you already have a NAS server which is attached to the same network via ethernet, I think this approach is much better than directly installing the ssd on the streamer, Mercury.

 

nano /etc/fstab

 

UUID=9561-85F6          /boot           vfat            noauto,noatime  1 2
UUID=6f39d3fc-ee1a-4a16-b8f4-3f5380427280          /               ext4            noatime         0 1
#/dev/mmcblk0p3          none            swap            sw              0 0
//192.168.1.25/music /mnt/Synology_Music cifs vers=3.0,username=admin,password=xyz123456,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,rw,uid=1000,gid=500,nofail 0 0
//192.168.1.25/music/playlist /mnt/Synology_Playlist cifs vers=3.0,username=admin,password=xyz123456,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,nofail 0 0

 

 

[mavwong]

On 11/30/2023 at 3:25 AM, chrisc said:

I'd really like to install an M.2 hard disc in a Mercury Pi2 and store music on it

 

Does Gentooplayer permit this, and what is the procedure ?

 

I hope this is not a big ask.  If not practical, please say so

 

Just get a m.2 to USB adaptor, Orico made quite a few of them. plug in to the USB port then under system base config, mount local disk. follow the form select the right partition, done. I did this for LMS server. Take note on my side I can only do up to 1TB, partition more than 1TB seems not able to recognize.

[WuBai]

10 hours ago, mavwong said:

 

Just get a m.2 to USB adaptor, Orico made quite a few of them. plug in to the USB port then under system base config, mount local disk. follow the form select the right partition, done. I did this for LMS server. Take note on my side I can only do up to 1TB, partition more than 1TB seems not able to recognize.

Back when I was down the rabbit hole of M.2 adapters I went the Orico route first wanting the highest speed possible.  I dug deep into the chipsets that each company uses and the Orico sounded pretty harsh in my system.  I found the best one 'for me' was the following on Amazon:

 

 SABRENT USB 3.2 10Gbps Type C Tool Free Enclosure for M.2 PCIe NVMe and SATA SSDs on Amazon

 

For the SSD itself I chose the lowest power drawing unit which sounded much better than my faster ones:

 

SK Hynix Gold P31 on Amazon

 

For some reason, high speed, be it on the interface or on the SSD itself did not improve the sound.  I found going the opposite direction, slower speed and lower power gave a big improvement in sound.  Of course this is all system and ear dependent and many people would say they all sound the same.  Just thought I'd share.  These mount very easily in Gentoo.

[Dandou]

1 hour ago, WuBai said:

I found going the opposite direction, slower speed and lower power gave a big improvement in sound. 

Lower rates of transfer are always better for the sound, because the chips are less noisy. 

For the same reason, the gear makers stick to USB2, and do not implement USB3. 

It's the same with the Ethernet. 100 Mbs is common for the ports of the audiophile gear. 

[mavwong]

 

I solve noise issue of the whole RPI with these lolz. Sorry for the poor workmanship. The orange tdk low esr cap really help smooth out. 

Anyway I also order the sabrent one to try out see if I can hear a diff or not. My server is far from audio room and in following setup :

LMS server RPI (where hdd is plugin）-> Host RPI -> Target RPI

 

[crm75]

I just installed 8.40 on RPi4.

Is it possible to configure RoonBridge to use Diretta Host and send to other RPi (Diretta Target)?

[antonellocaroli]

48 minutes ago, crm75 said:

I just installed 8.40 on RPi4.

Is it possible to configure RoonBridge to use Diretta Host and send to other RPi (Diretta Target)?

RoonBridge does not require any configuration you simply have to install DirettaHost and target (on the target PCs), in roonserver you should see the various targets.

[antonellocaroli]

Latency Test on my AMD system:

 

 Other Realtime System optimised on the same PC:

 

 

 

 

[WuBai]

Dang, I guess I need to download quicker next time!

 

check RamSystem...wait

OK

check Profile...wait

ok

ok

file consistency check

wait...

Too many users have downloaded this file recently. Please try to access the file again at a later time. It may take up to 24 hours to download the file.

[guilders]

Hi there, what are the differences with kernels named 6.6.1 test and 6.6.2 test ?

[antonellocaroli]

1 hour ago, guilders said:

Hi there, what are the differences with kernels named 6.6.1 test and 6.6.2 test ?

The kernel version....6.6.x, I call it a test because it is not the release version, which is 6.1.x

[lithiumnk]

19 hours ago, antonellocaroli said:

Latency Test on my AMD system:

 

 Other Realtime System optimised on the same PC:

 

 

 

 

Thanks for sharing !

I've enabled the settings & the improvement is more than any kernel/version upgrade. 

Is it possible to adjust these settings on rpi4 gentoo as well ? If yes, kindly share the settings.

Amazing work !

 

[WuBai]

Do you know when I'll be able to update from 8.30 to 8.40?  It keeps saying "Too many users have downloaded this file recently.  Please try to access the file again at a later time.  It may take up to 24 hours to download the file."

 

Please don't say "Yes I know how long you'll need to wait....24 hours."  😁

 

I've just never seen this message before on previous updates.  I did run GP-Update multiple times already.  Thank you!

[antonellocaroli]

31 minutes ago, WuBai said:

Please don't say "Yes I know how long you'll need to wait....24 hours." 

you don't really have to wait 24 hours, try again later....

gp-update has nothing to do

[PML]

1 hour ago, lithiumnk said:

Thanks for sharing !

I've enabled the settings & the improvement is more than any kernel/version upgrade. 

Is it possible to adjust these settings on rpi4 gentoo as well ? If yes, kindly share the settings.

Amazing work !

 

I transpose the existing 6.6 parameter in RPI and sound increase is really Amazing I agree with you

[Badd99]

1 hour ago, PML said:

I transpose the existing 6.6 parameter in RPI and sound increase is really Amazing I agree with you

What settings did you change specifically