Any MSB fans here ?

[matthias]

39 minutes ago, mav52 said:

I do like their gear, but can't afford it.

 

I neither like their gear, nor can afford it.

 

Matt

[matthias]

3 hours ago, Music Enthusiast said:

Do you have any experience with MSB DAC's in your own system?

 

Not in mine system, but I listened to MSB at several audio shows, mainly High End Munich. 

The worst experience was HE Munich this year:

AFAIK MSB Select with some active speakers and both guys from MSB were present.

Boring, clinical, without emotions.......

 

Matt

[matthias]

7 minutes ago, Music Enthusiast said:

Did the active speakers use DSP crossovers? If so the sound you didn't like could have been from that. Because the analog outputs from the MSB would have to go through an ADC/DSP/DAC before the amplifiers. 

 

Did not ask them, I wanted to leave the room asap.

Did not understand at all how to set-up such a system, offending the visitor.

 

Matt

[matthias]

1 minute ago, Music Enthusiast said:

So there's a good chance that what you didn't like was the speakers/room combination. I find it very hard to believe it's possible to judge a DAC alone in an unknown room, with unknown gear. The only impressions I put weight on is when one has the DAC in there own system for an extended period of time, and had a chance to extensibly compare with other DAC's in the same class, in the same system. 

 

Maybe, but on HE Munich there were quite a few systems which sounded wonderfully.

All manufacturers have similar rooms. 

I had the impression they were not interested to let their equipment shine.

 

Matt

 

[matthias]

3 minutes ago, mintakax said:

The MSB Select System at RMAF 2018 sounded awesome ! If I remember correctly, the speakers were Magicos. I love the sound of my MSB Discrete but admittedly haven't compared it to other higher end DACs. For me it really shines playing DSD files, there thicker the better.

 

Then I am wondering why they neglect european audiophiles.

 

Matt

[matthias]

I am a strong believer in the source first principle.

Upstream of the DAC you have something like a server or streamer, then an USB or ethernet cable.

The DAC comes third in the hierarchy.

When you spend 80k on a DAC which is less important than what comes before it, how much want you spend on the more important devices?

 

Matt