Audiophilia Syndrome

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Sure Audiophilia can get out of hand and become an obsessive-compulsive behaviour.

 

We also have some people that seems to be obsessive with everything that they consider to be snake oil products.  

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5 minutes ago, pkane2001 said:

 

There are certainly folks at both extremes. What I often find is that the people near the middle get pushed into one of the extreme groups, just because it makes it easier to classify them this way. That's not fair to them.

 

Yep, that’s probably true.

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15 hours ago, GUTB said:

It's said that BMWs are "drivers' cars". In the neutortypical sense, "drivers" in this context refers to people who value the thrill of driving a high-performance vehicle.

 

If someone comes along with a Mazda, can he call himself a "driver"? The thrill aspect is subjective, right?

 

The answer is...no. Subjectivity is often used to hide objective facts. In the realm of human behavior and psychological response, out of the billions of people populating the Earth objective realities can arise as generalities. BMWs are high-performance cars, and Mazdas are not -- everyone knows this. "Everyone" is generality, but a meaningful one. We all simply intuit the fact; arguments using subjective stances are really just efforts to deny the thing everyone already knows.

 

Audiophiles in the neurotypical sense just means someone who values high-performance audio.

 

A serious question. Do you believe that the audio gear you self-own are considered high-performance audio to those that owns SOTA audio gear?

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On 2018-03-25 at 6:37 PM, GUTB said:

 

My gear is high-performance, but no it doesn't raise to the level of SOTA.

 

No, I didn’t ask what you thought about your own audio gear, and you know it. I’m asking if you believe that the mid-fi audio gear you have are considered high end to those that owns real state of the art audio gear?

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32 minutes ago, GUTB said:

 

You asked me about performance and SOTA. It's high-performance but not SOTA. I would classify most of the components as mid-fi. I don't understand your complaint.

 

You don’t understand? You have mid-fi gear, at best, and are constantly complaining and saying that what others have sucks and everything that’s you consider are below your SQ threshold, preference or type of design. I just turn the light on your system and gear and wonder if you actually think that those people that really have SOTA systems built around Wilson, Magico and Marten etc would agree with you that you have a High End system. I very much doubt it.

 

No need to repeatedly say that everything that you don’t like sucks, if it’s not actually sound bad, bad as in I can’t stand listening to it because I get a headache or something.  

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On 2018-03-30 at 5:18 PM, GUTB said:

 

I’ve said that class D and consumer-grade gear sucks. That’s the truth. I never once put my $15k system in the same category as a $50-100k system. Your issue doesn’t seem reality-based. Do you have a lo-if system and feel insulted?

 

Yes you are repetitively saying that class D, electrostatic speakers and consumer grade gear etc etc sucks, but no one have appointed you a judge for what’s are good or not. You are stating everything like its fact, but they aren’t.

 

Class D can be made to sound good, even if not as good as the best of the best class A, IME, but certainly not all sucks. Consumer grade are just gear that many people buy and says nothing about how good they are and what tech, implementation or design that are used.

 

How is my issue not reality based? You don’t have a High End audio system in my opinion.

 

I would not consider my audio system to be a lo-fi, to me its sound pretty good, but yes I feel insulted by your comments and the fact that you think that you are spokesman for all audiophiles and a judge on which gear and design that is good or bad.  I believe am not alone to react that way.