Jay-dub Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Thanks. From a methodology point, only asking for the top 3 greatest will give a certain bias, asking for a slightly longer list would have been better. But I should probably stop obsessing about this kind of detail. In any case, in the end the full top 20 list looks pretty comprehensive to me. It certainly biases the list towards works on a monumental scale, those that are unique in their composer's output, and those with orchestration that works well with a full-sized symphony orchestra. Thus: no Haydn (are conductors going to agree on one or two out of dozens of wonderful works?) and no Schumann (orchestration that works best with a chamber orchestra). I'm convinced that if Berlioz had written four symphonies, none of them would have made the cut. Polling composers might give you a more interesting list. I remember Easley Blackwood used to maintain a list of the greatest orchestral works. His highest category (outstanding both in content and orchestration, from beginning to end) had Beethoven represented by symphonies 4 and 8, and included Haydn 88, 101 and 102. I don't remember what else he had on his list. Link to comment
Le Concombre Masqué Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Maybe I'd loose the 2 &8 and introduce Dvorak's 9 For me it would be: Beethoven 1 Beethoven 2 Beethoven 3 Beethoven 4 Beethoven 5 Beethoven 6 Beethoven 7 Beethoven 8 Beethoven 9 Hmmm. And maybe Mahler 9. Link to comment
Jay-dub Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 And my personal favorites list: Haydn 93, 101 Beethoven 2,4,8 Schumann 2 Brahms 2 Sibelius 2,5 Mahler Lied von der Erde with runners-up: Mozart 39,41 Beethoven 7 Mendelssohn 3 Schumann 3,4 Brahms 1,3 Tchaikovsky 4,6 Dvorak 7,9 Mahler 6,9 Stravinsky Symphony in C Bartok Concerto for Orchestra Link to comment
Norton Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 My tastes are a bit more 20th century and a bit more English, so top in terms of what I actually listen to the most : Elgar 1, 2 maybe "3" RVW 1-3, 5&6 Mahler 2, 5 & 6 Bruckner 3,4, 6-9 Mendelssohn 3 (and getting to like 5 at the moment) Schumann 1-4 Tchaikovsky 4-6 Rachmaninov 3 Moeran Symphony in G William Boyce Copland 3 Diamond 2 Myaskovsky 6 and 20+ Arnell 3 Rubbra 3,4,5,7 Link to comment
Boris75 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 They were asked: '...to name the three symphonies they consider the greatest.' The results were then complied into a top 20. Here's the BBC Music Magazine's complete list of the Top 20: 01 - Beethoven 3 02 - Beethoven 9 03 - Mozart 41 04 - Mahler 9 05 - Mahler 2 06 - Brahms 4 07 - Berlioz Symphonie fantastique 08 - Brahms 1 09 - Tchaikovsky 6 10 - Mahler 3 11 - Beethoven 5 12 - Brahms 3 13 - Bruckner 8 14 - Sibelius 7 15 - Mozart 40 16 - Beethoven 7 17 - Shostakovich 5 18 - Brahms 2 19 - Beethoven 6 20 - Bruckner 7 That's a sensible, but if I had to pick just one Sibelius, that would be the second rather than the seventh. Similarly, for Shostakovich, that would be the 7th rather than the 5th. Finally, I'd drop Brahms 2nd (though that's a great symphony) to make room for Saint-Saens' 3rd. And that still leaves Haydn, Schumann and Melssohn out, which is a shame! Link to comment
Hailey Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 If this list were called "Symphonies conductors like to conduct" it might make more sense. Link to comment
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