squidly Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Up until today, I had been using a V-Link 192 to go from my Mac mini to my uber bifrost because it didn't have a USB input. I bought and installed the gen2 USB card and thought I'd share the differences. I wasn't really expecting there to be a big change, but I was surprised how different the two sound. 1. Right away I noticed MUCH more separation and layering from the gen2 card. 2. The gen2 card definitely has a lower noise floor. 3. The gen2 card was more resolving of musical information, BUT it's also brighter and I'm not sure if one is causing the other. I'm hoping the new gen2 card mellows out with break-in, otherwise I'm going to seek some copper interconnects instead of my copper/silver ones that I have now. Come to think of it, the whole presentation from the gen2 card sounds like pure silver interconnects or speaker wire. It's very punchy, with bass-drum kicks that seem quicker than what's natural. So in that regard, the V-Link is better because it's more natural sounding. Usually tone trumps everything for me, but in this case I'm going to act like somebody's girlfriend who sees potential in their new mate and thinks they can change annoying behaviors for the better. Link to comment
wkhanna Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I have the original Bifrost (no USB) & the Gungnir (no USB). Been using the V-Link 192. I have been contemplating getting the gen2 USB, so I V much appreciate your post. Makes me want try it even more. Edit: Just Ordered Bill Practicing Curmudgeon & Audio Snob ....just an "ON" switch, Please! Link to comment
squidly Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 I couldn't find comparisons to many USB/spdif converters so I took a chance at the gen 2 card. I'm glad my post was helpful. I did change cables and the tone is excellent now. Not overly bright...just right. Link to comment
wkhanna Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 V glad to hear the cable change provided the balance you were looking for. Did you happen to perceive any break-in change? Bill Practicing Curmudgeon & Audio Snob ....just an "ON" switch, Please! Link to comment
squidly Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 I only have about 5 hours on it, but no, I haven't noticed. I mentioned something about break-in because the Bifrost's transformation was was crazy. I tried it right out of the box and damn near sent it back. It sounded horrible. Kept music playing 24/7 and would check in periodically. At about 80-100 hours, the sound had settled down and was much more enjoyable to listen to over my Peachtree. Link to comment
Jud Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I'd give the new card a good 100 hours before forming final impressions. If drums are actually quicker, that *is* natural (find a live show or just go to a music store and hit a drum). Most equipment can't give you true transients, so you get accustomed to a slower, rolled-off sound and think that's reality. On the other hand, if it's frequency rather than speed (everything has a "zing" to it), that's not correct. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical to EtherREGEN -> microRendu -> ISO Regen -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
squidly Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Bass drums had more of a lightweight thump than a thud. I play drums so that kind of stuff annoys me. Link to comment
wkhanna Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I mentioned something about break-in because the Bifrost's transformation was was crazy. I tried it right out of the box and damn near sent it back. It sounded horrible. Kept music playing 24/7 and would check in periodically. At about 80-100 hours, the sound had settled down and was much more enjoyable........ My experience with both the Bifrost & Gungnir were V similar to yours. Bill Practicing Curmudgeon & Audio Snob ....just an "ON" switch, Please! Link to comment
wkhanna Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Well, I just remembered why I was holding out on the gen2 USB upgrade. My NAS PC is in the adjacent room from my system. I currently have a 1 foot WireWorld UltraViolet 7 running to the MF V-Link 192. Then a 10 foot BlueJean coax to my Schiit Gungnir. Now I am faced with finding a decent USB cable to replace the long run required. I would like to try the MapleShade Clearlink but alas, it is only available in a 3 foot length. I could end up paying two to three times the Schiit USB price just to get a cable. Bill Practicing Curmudgeon & Audio Snob ....just an "ON" switch, Please! Link to comment
wkhanna Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 The gen2 USB card arrived today. Installation is easy: There is an adhesive-backed plastic sticker covering the USB bulkhead on units shipped from the factory without the USB card. Just peel it off. The new gen2 USB card. Match up the pins on the USB card to the sockets on the main board. Once it is in place & fully seated, using the supplied hardware, screw the gen2 USB card on to the stand-offs. The gen2 USB card installed. After assembly of the chassis, the USB port is now accessible & ready to use. The Gungnir back in place & ready for business. Bill Practicing Curmudgeon & Audio Snob ....just an "ON" switch, Please! Link to comment
PewterTA Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Where's the HiFi Tuning Fuse being installed in this! ha ha! Nice write up Bill and great Pics! Now to burn it in and see what you get from it! Link to comment
wkhanna Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I did not want to introduce two variables at one time. I plan on evaluating the HiFi Tuning Fuse at our next audio-club get-together at my place later this month. Bill Practicing Curmudgeon & Audio Snob ....just an "ON" switch, Please! Link to comment
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