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    Synology DS411 Slim Network Attached Storage (NAS) Review

    DS411slim-thumb.jpgSunday January 9 was the final day of the 2011 Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. Sundays at CES I usually head over to the main show floor at the Las Vegas Convention Center to meet most of the computer hardware and software company reps. This year was no exception. As usual the show floor was very crowded with people and full of every electronic product imaginable. Thanks to the developers of the CES iPhone app I found my way to the Synology booth to meet with Product Marketing Manager Douglas Self. While talking and perusing Synology's products I set eyes on a tiny Network Attached Storage (NAS) device capable of holding four 1 TB 2.5" hard drives. My first (over exaggerated) thought was, "where has this been all my life?" One month later the Synology DS411 Slim became part of my computer audio system and I fell in love with the device as much as someone can fall in love with an inanimate object. The incredibly practical DS411 Slim is very quiet, inexpensive, and full of features.

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    <b>What is a NAS & Why Do Computer Audiophiles Need One?</b>

     

    <b>What</b>: Readers unfamiliar with Network Attached Storage (NAS) can think of a NAS unit as one or more hard drives that connect to a home network instead of directly to a personal computer. Many times NAS units with several hard drives will combine the drives so they appear as a single large drive to other computers on the network. This large drive may appear on Windows computers in the My Computer area as the E:, F:, or other letter, drive just like the very familiar C: drive. On Mac computers a NAS drive simply appears on the desktop and in Finder. This is a very over-simplified description of Network Attached Storage and may not be used to answer an essay question on any school exam as you will fail miserably.

     

    <b>Why</b>: Do computer audiophiles NEED a NAS device like the Synology DS411 Slim? According to most definitions<sup>1</sup> of the word NEED they don't NEED a NAS. Many people are more comfortable with one, two, three, or more external drives hanging off their computer via USB, FireWire, or eSATA. Plus, access to the music contained on these individual drives is not required from another computer or device in the house. I completely understand why audiophiles select this method to store their music. There's nothing wrong with the piece of mind this method may provide to such users. A broader definition<sup>2</sup> of NEED contains words such as "essential" and "very important". Cherry picking this broader definition above all others, it's easier to see many computer audiophiles' are in NEED of a NAS.

     

    <sup>1.</sup> A need is something that is necessary for organisms to live a healthy life. <i>Source: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need">Wikipedia</a><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need"><img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/ca/icons/ex.png" style="padding: 0pt 0pt 0pt 3pt;" alt="link"></img></a></i>

    <sup>2.</sup> Require (something) because it is essential or very important : I need help now | [with present participle ] this shirt needs washing | [with infinitive ] they need to win tomorrow.

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    I've used NAS devices for many years and recommend them to every computer audiophile who asks for disk storage advice. The most common feedback I receive after someone takes this advice is, "Why did I wait so long to get one of these? I can't live without it." Some basic uses of a NAS device for a computer audiophile include a single source of all digital entertainment (files) for all devices in the entire house, redundant disks protect against data loss, backup location for data contained on other hard drives, Apple Time Machine location, capacity to hold several terabytes (4, 5, 10, 14, and more) of data in one chassis with ease, ability to play music without the need for a traditional computer to be running, ability to store the device hundreds of meters away from the listening area, and many more that escape my mind at the moment. Using a NAS device ads a layer of complexity to the initial setup. I don't believe this added complexity is a good enough reason to not use a NAS. The local Geek Squad will be happy to setup a NAS for far less money than some of us have spent on downloads from HDtracks. Despite what the some readers may think, I still pay for my downloads. In fact I just purchased and downloaded Elvis Costello's North album at 24 bit / 88.2 kHz [<a href="https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=catalogdetail&valbum_code=HD00602498091630">Link</a>]<a href="https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=catalogdetail&valbum_code=HD00602498091630"><img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/ca/icons/ex.png" style="padding: 0pt 0pt 0pt 3pt;" alt="link"></img></a> and placed it on the DS411 Slim NAS.

     

     

     

    <b>Is The Synology DS411 Slim Right For Computer Audiophiles?</b>

     

    Is the Synology DS411 Slim the right NAS for computer audiophiles? I believe it's the right NAS for many computer audiophiles but not every computer audiophile. Readers with music collections over 2.5 TB can rule this NAS out straight away. The current maximum size of 2.5" drives is 1 TB and the Slim can hold four such drives. Using RAID level 5 this equates to 3 TB of disk space and approximately 2793.96 TB of usable disk space. Readers without music collections of this size will be hard pressed to find reasons why the DS411 Slim may not be right for them. It's not impossible, but it's unlikely.

     

    Quiet, inexpensive, and feature rich describe the Slim very well. I currently have the DS411 Slim sitting one arm's length from my desk chair and a few inches to the right of my Apple 24" display. Directly beneath my display is one Oyen Digital fanless 2.5" USB bus powered 750 GB hard drive [<a href="http://oyendigital.com/firewire-800-usb-hard-drive.html">Link</a>]<a href="http://oyendigital.com/firewire-800-usb-hard-drive.html"><img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/ca/icons/ex.png" style="padding: 0pt 0pt 0pt 3pt;" alt="link"></img></a>. When both the Oyen drive and the Synology DS411 Slim are being accessed simultaneously the DS411 Slim NAS is much quieter than the Oyen drive. This does not mean the Oyen drive is loud. It's just a testament to how quiet the Slim operates. The Slim's smart fan can shut off during periods of little access and fires up to a fairly slow speed to dissipate heat when required. Subjectively the noise level is quiet enough for a computer audiophile's listening room. Objectively the noise level is, <i>"21.1dB(A) when fully loaded with Seagate 320 GB ST9500325AS hard drive(s) in operation; Two G.R.A.S. Type 40AE microphones, each set up at 1 meter away from the DiskStation front and rear; Background noise: 17.2 dB(A); Temperature: 23.6°C; Humidity: 58.2%. More details about dB(A) value, check: http://www.memtechacoustical.com/facts.asp"</i> according to Synology. The smart fan technology and small laptop sized 2.5" hard drives is a winning combination. If money were no object I would have installed four solid state drives and possibly disconnect the fan<sup>3</sup> for absolutely silent operation. Maybe a CA reader will pull this configuration off and share the results with everyone.

     

    <sup>3.</sup> Disconnecting the fan is not recommended by Synology.

     

    The DS411 Slim is small in size and in price. I contacted Doug from Synology to inquire about price and availability. I was really surprised and thrilled to hear the DS411 Slim will sell for $309.99 (diskless). This is $60 cheaper than it's less capable predecessor the DS409 Slim and $150 cheaper than the price of the DS409 Slim the day it debuted on the market. A quick search at Newegg.com reveals the least expensive four-bay NAS unit is $50 more than the price of the DS411 Slim [<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008175%20600016040%20600016054&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20">Link</a>]<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008175%20600016040%20600016054&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20"><img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/ca/icons/ex.png" style="padding: 0pt 0pt 0pt 3pt;" alt="link"></img></a>. The DS411 Slim will be available in the next few days from Newegg.com and shortly thereafter from only stores such as Amazon and Buy.com.

     

    The rich feature set of the DS411 Slim is very attractive for computer audiophiles who will use it as a central media server. Access from Mac OS X, Windows, and Linux computers is supported without any caveats. Apple users should feel fortunate that the Slim supports Time Machine backups thus enabling them to leave the expensive Time Capsule at the Apple Store. The Slim is a fully compliant UPnP / DLNA media server capable of streaming to the PS Audio Perfect Wave DAC, Linn DS players, iPads, PS3s, and Microsoft's XBox360. I enabled UPnP support on the DS411 Slim and tested the functionality using J River Media Center 16 on a Windows 7 computer. I had no problems viewing and playing music stored on the Slim and outputting the audio to any device connected to my Windows 7 computer. The Slim can also serve as an iTunes server sharing content with computers running iTunes on a Mac or Windows PC. I tested this using iTunes version 10.1.2 (17) on my MacBook Pro running Mac OS X 10.6.6 without a single issue. Users of Logitech Squeezebox devices can also install the Squeezebox Server package, downloadable directly from Synology, to serve music right from the Slim to the Squeezebox. The Synology Audio Station feature offers users access to their music collections and Internet radio stations whether they are on the local home network or anywhere on Earth with a reasonable Internet connection. The Audio Station feature is also what allows USB audio output directly to some USB DACs. Thanks to an astute CA reader and confirmation from Synology I can report that the software only supports 16 bit audio for bit perfect playback. However, playback using this interface is less than desirable and will not be acceptable for many computer audiophiles.

     

    <img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2011/0218/light-bulb-2.png" style="padding: 5pt 10pt 5pt 5pt;" align="left">The heart of the DS411 Slim, and all Synology NAS units, is the DiskStation Manager NAS operating system currently at version 3 (Version: DSM 3.0-1372; Build Date: 2010/12/14). In addition to the features listed above the Slim offers features such as multiple iSCSI LUN support, firewall, secure network access, eMule download service, BitTorrent support, email serving, web serving, print serving, and a host of energy saving options. I recommend readers browse the DSM 3 features on Synology's site for a much better explanation of everything the Slim supports [<a href="http://www.synology.com/enu/products/features/user_interface.php">Link</a>]<a href="http://www.synology.com/enu/products/features/user_interface.php"><img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/ca/icons/ex.png" style="padding: 0pt 0pt 0pt 3pt;" alt="link"></img></a>.

     

     

     

    <b>Conclusion</b>

     

    <a href="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/ca/cash-logo-black.png" class="thickbox" rel="cash"><img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/ca/cash-logo-black-thumb.jpg" style="padding: 2pt 5pt 2pt 2pt;" align="left" alt="CASH-List"></a>Without a doubt the Synology DS411 Slim is deserved of a spot on the <a href="http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/Computer-Audiophile-Suggested-Hardware-List">C.A.S.H List</a>. The Slim is so far from the big beast that is my five-drive Thecus N5200B Pro yet both are worthy of <a href="http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/Computer-Audiophile-Suggested-Hardware-List">C.A.S.H List</a> entries. It all depends on the needs of each computer audiophile. Quiet, inexpensive, and feature rich are attributes about which nobody should complain. The 21.1dB(A) noise level is about one decibel louder than a buzzing insect. The insect is annoying and possibly loud when located inside the ear canal. The DS411 Slim produces an opposite and enjoyable experience and although small will not fit inside one's ear canal. At an arm's length the Slim is quieter than a single external hard drive (fanless or not). Need I say more about the $309.99 price point Synology has hit from day one of the DS411 Slim's release? I think not. The Slim is full of more features than anyone will ever use. One beauty of the DSM 3 operating system is that all of them can be disabled. "Purist" Computer Audiophiles looking for a simple Network Attached Storage unit to serve music files to a Mac, PC, or Linux computer without all the bells and whistles couldn't ask for more. Ok maybe they could. This is high end audio after all and the DS411 Slim does not have an aircraft aluminum chassis with mother of pearl buttons and a silver plated Ethernet port. "Purist" hard core computer audiophiles, computer using music aficionados, and newbies looking for direction all NEED a NAS and the Synology DS411 Slim could easily meet this NEED.

     

     

     

     

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    Product Information

     

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    <li>Price - $309.99</li>

    <li>Product Page - <a href="http://www.synology.com/us/products/DS411slim/index.php">Link</a><a href="http://www.synology.com/us/products/DS411slim/index.php"><img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/ca/icons/ex.png" style="padding: 0pt 0pt 0pt 3pt;" alt="link"></img></a></li>

    <li>Manual - <a href="http://files.computeraudiophile.com/2011/0218/Syno_UsersGuide_NAServer_enu.pdf">(PDF 7.0 MB)</a></li>

    <li>Quick Installation Guide - <a href="http://files.computeraudiophile.com/2011/0218/Syno_Quick-Installation-Guide.pdf">(PDF 1.8 MB)</a></li>

    <li>Data Sheet - <a href="http://files.computeraudiophile.com/2011/0218/Synology_DS411slim_Data_Sheet_enu.pdf">(PDF 506 KB)</a></li>

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    I saw that list when I checked out the product. As noted, only one 1tb drive.<br />

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    Was looking for some thoughts based on experience. Thanks.

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    Thanks for the review. I ordered one of these units and am doing research on it while I wait for it to land on my doorstep. A couple of comments... I think the price has gone up since you wrote this review. The best price I could find was on Amazon @$319. The other resellers on Amazon Marketplace are selling them for $350+ so there seems to be a significant markup on these as Amazon puts the list price at $319.<br />

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    I was most interested in the Synology default RAID format and it's redundancy functionality. How's it working for you so far?

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    Hi Chris,<br />

    I have enjoyed reading your site for awhile now and thought I would add a comment. I have been using a Squeezebox Touch with a Synology ds111 and loving it! For the small cost of running cat6 across the apartment the setup works great and I especially like not having to have the computer running all the time (as does the girlfriend!) The ds111 is a single bay which can take a 2TB drive (I didn't want to mess with RAID - easy enough to back up to an external drive). <br />

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    Cheers! K

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    On a system like this that has 4 bays, why could you not put a 2tb or more hardrive in the bays in the future to up the capacity, online it says it can only take 1tb hard drives, why is this?

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    Hi attndef - Because this system is so small it requires 2.5" laptop size drives that currently max out at 1TB.

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    And with that, there's really only one 1TB drive readily available and approved by Synology which is the Western Digital Scorpio Blue. And... given my experience, you're going to want to stay away from them. I installed 4 of them into this 411slim unit less than two weeks ago and as of yesterday 2 have failed. That's a very high failure rate, higher than anything I've experienced before. If data security is important, I would stay far away from these drives.

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    Ah I see, so in the future when the smaller sized discs are available in a larger capacity you can up the storage on a nas like this.

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    To me, this form factor gets increasingly attractive as the prices of SSDs continue to fall, while their quality, density, and speed continue to increase.<br />

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    We are watching the death of hard drives in the consumer and even enterprise space. In 5 years, I doubt I will own an HD.<br />

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    For now, because I am not enamored of the 2.5 form factor for desk-bound use, I am leaning toward the Synology DS411+.

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    And yesterday, I pulled the trigger on the DS411+, and a foursome of Hitachi 2tb drives. <br />

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    Looking forward to the setup process on my home network. I am really impressed with the Synology setup, its multi-platform support [home is all OS X], and the wide range of services that the device supports.

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    Hi everyone! So I am a bit confused because one of the links here was to newegg and the dicsussion about the drives that can be used within the storage device all complain about the 1 TB small drives. However, this is because they are slower and especially because they are being used as the boot drive for laptops. So, does this not make a difference for the NAS?<br />

    Thank you for your time<br />

    Joshua

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    Got my DS411+ set up this morning. I am impressed. Setup could not have been much easier. I also have an OWC Mercury Elite-AL Pro Qx2 on my all-Mac network. The Synology was just as easy to set up, but of course, it has the advantage of being an NAS. I have it stocked with 4 2tb drives, and from out of the box to running the DSM admin setup was less than 20 minutes. Volume creation and file services will take a little longer of course. DSM software and web admin are very easy to use, and appear quite robust.<br />

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    @Joshua: Not sure I understand your comment. I was one of the people who expressed misgivings over the use of the Slim due to its reliance on 2.5 drives. The advantages and shortcomings of those drives seem obvious. And as I said, one day in the not-too-distant future, it won't matter as enterprise-class SSD overtakes HD technology.

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    @Pale Rider,<br />

    it was just a question regarding the 2.5 drive. So from the info in this thread and the other thread on NewEgg I gather that the NAS using the 1TB WD drives is not the way to go. I am just being redundant and making sure that I understand it.<br />

    thanks for your time,<br />

    Joshua<br />

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    I wouldn't go that far Joshua. I think for many, the Slim will be perfect, and the 2.5 drives will be more than robust enough. For me, I needed more than 4tb in total, so I needed something bigger.

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    Which 2 TB drives did you end up using?<br />

    Thanks

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    This is one I went 'round and 'round on. My first choice was a Hitachi unit, but I couldn't get enough, so it came down to a choice between WD and Seagate green drives. I saw good and bad reviews on both, but chose the Seagate, because my personal experience tilted slightly in its favor. We'll see how they do. <a target="new" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004CCS266">This one.</a> Ordered from Amazon, because they make it very easy to return anything not working.

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    I just purchased a DS411J. Building the array and moving my music library definitely did take quite a bit of time, but for an initial setup that's OK. My previous setup was a 1.5TB internal HD in my iMac, backed up with SuperDuper to a 1.5TB external drive. As I was running out of space, I wanted a more flexible solution and liked the functionality of the Synology. I'm wondering if I have a bottleneck or if there is a way of increasing the performance of my setup. With an internal drive, the speed was...well...fast. Converting files, tagging and changing metadata, and adding to the library worked very well. By moving my library to the NAS I find adding files to the library to be slower. I can live with that, but tagging and changing metadata in iTunes is painfully slow. I change a file, and then wait forever for it to save and move to the next file after hitting the next button. I'm using the SHR setup, which I believe put my 4 drives in a RAID 5. I am also using gigabit ethernet cable. Is there any way to improve the speed of my setup? I find accessing files also slower, when I chose a track, it takes longer for the track to start playing as well.

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    hi experts!<br />

    propably here and there somebody commented...but a lot of info and I kindly ask for a help on this question:<br />

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    Synology DS411slim for example, streams FLAC or wahtever HD audio file via USB...?? or how do I stream those files to my DAC?<br />

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    Does the USB output from Synology admit all resolutions? up to 32/384?...for connecting it to my DAC?<br />

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    Can I controll with an iPhne /iPad with a nice GUI my audiofiles?<br />

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    many thanks for your support!!!<br />

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    Gonzal

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    on one of these along with some drives. I'll be using it to store all of my music files and play them from my CAPS 2.0 server running Win 7 64bit Ultimate and J River MC 16. What would be the best way of sending these files from the NAS to the PC? I currently control J River remotely from an iPad running Splashtop so I have to have everything plugged into my wireless router, which is located in another room along with my main PC which is connected to the Internet. The Win 7 PC is not connected to the Internet but is connected to my home network.<br />

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    I want to completely separate these so that I can have my music server plus NAS and wireless router together and the main PC can remain in the other room and connected to the Internet or turned off when not in use. I assume that the eSata outlet on the DS411Slim cannot be used to connect back to the eSata outlet on the CAPS server. It looks like that is only for an external SATA drive. So the only way to send music to the CAPS server would be over Ethernet right?<br />

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    Colin <br />

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    Why couldn't he CAPS server see the NAS on your home network?

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    That's what I figured. I should have been clearer. I don't have the NAS yet. It arrives tomorrow. I just want it for dumb storage, so no streaming etc. Like I do now I just want to point J River to the files on the NAS and have the ability to play them via the CAPS server. My question really was if there was an other way to send the information from the NAS to the PC other than via ethernet. Like a direct connection.<br />

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    Additionally what I want to do is take my main PC which is connected to the Internet out of the equation. I would rather have my music server and NAS not connected to it. That isn't a problem. One more thing. I have all my stereo equipment plugged into an Audience Adept Response AR6 power distribution box. I also plugged the CAPS server in there but wondered about that decision and how it might affect sound quality. The CAPS server is not like a traditional PC with a large power supply but instead comes with a 12 V, 5 A, 60 W power supply (non linear)that plugs into the motherboard directly. I figure it might be best to at least plug the CAPS server and NAS into a different outlet. My current domestic situation won't allow a separate supply for my audio system.<br />

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    Colin

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    drive does not mean you are streaming. You are simply attached via gigabit ethernet (assuming your router and connections are gigabit between NAS and CAS), a faster and more electrically and acoustically isolated connection than USB or firewire.

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    Not sure I understand this comment. My CAPS server won't see the NAS as its hard drive. It has its own internal SSD. All I will be doing is pointing J River at a folder that resides on the NAS server. All I was asking was is there an alternative to using the GigE connection to connect the two devices.<br />

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    Colin

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    people use the term streaming, etc as if you are using a Squeezebox and TCP/IP or something. No, J River will see a music drive that is just as good, if not better connection than USB or firewire direct. Only eSata would be a quicker external drive connection.

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