bodiebill Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 20 hours ago, antonellocaroli said: yes, that can be done without problems ... however if you want you can try it too ... Consider that gentoo does not install binaries but compiles them, so some operations take a long time, especially on ARM architectures. Assuming you've expanded the root partition with gparted, you can continue like this: emerge-webrsync echo "media-libs/libmpdclient **" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords/my_key echo "media-sound/upmpdcli **" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords/my_key echo "net-libs/libupnpp **" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords/my_key echo "net-libs/libupnp **" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords/my_key if you are interested in qobuz, tidal, ...: USE="thirdparty" emerge --ask media-sound/upmpdcli otherwise: emerge --ask media-sound/upmpdcli then you have to edit the configuration file as wiki Tried this, but when I do emerge --ask media-sound/upmpdcli I get: !!! Your current profile is invalid. If you have just changed your profile !!! configuration, you should revert back to the previous configuration. What am I doing wrong? audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 26 minutes ago, antonellocaroli said: proceed so: /etc/init/ntp-client restart emerge-webrsync and then emerge --ask media-sound/upmpdcli it will take a bit 'of time... Assuming you've expanded the root partition with gparted. or wait for the next image ... Thanks for the quick reply! I had to install ntp first and then do /etc/init/ntp-client.d restart and now I got it working. Out of curiosity: when can we expect the next image with upmpdcli ? audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I have been trying the last days to make ramsystem (ramdisk) work with GentooPlayer. First I tried with an 8GB usb flash drive, but while performing ramsystem I got this error message "write error: no space left on device". So I tried with a 16GB drive, but again I got this same message. See screenshot. Maybe by device is meant: the RAM device? However, I use a 64bit pc with 8GB RAM of which more than 6.5GB is available according to free -m. Any idea what I could be doing wrong? audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 29 minutes ago, antonellocaroli said: Hi, Thanks for the report ... are you trying with the xfce version? Sorry, forgot to say: I am using the command-line version, without xfce. audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 48 minutes ago, antonellocaroli said: mhhh, strange....4 GB should suffice... version systemd or openr-RC can you post me the result of the command df -h and du -sh /* Thanks! My bad, I apologize! I forgot to resize /dev/sda3 on the new stick. After doing so, ramsystem completes without error message! How can I see that it is actually running in RAM? free -m total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 7840 99 6562 1141 1178 6521 cat /proc/meminfo MemTotal: 8028844 kB MemFree: 6719600 kB MemAvailable: 6677860 kB Buffers: 496 kB Cached: 1176156 kB SwapCached: 0 kB Active: 17548 kB Inactive: 1165852 kB Active(anon): 10104 kB Inactive(anon): 1165340 kB Active(file): 7444 kB Inactive(file): 512 kB (etc.) PS I use the openRC version. audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, antonellocaroli said: if the script did not give errors the system is in ram ... but if you want a counter check remove the usb stick ... but before doing so, restart the system in normal mode, give the command gp-update (update the scripts, I changed something) ... and then try ... if you can even try the version systemd would make me a pleasure, and maybe give me your impressions, I would like to bring forward only one, or systemd or openRC .... with systemd it can happen that it does not work internet, sometimes it can not solve the host, if it happens just give the following commands ln -snf /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf systemctl enable systemd-resolved.service systemctl start systemd-resolved.service Thanks! Thanks Antonello. I tried with the systemd version, but I got stuck: gp-update does not work as there is no internet. Actually, the normal GP menu items such as cpu-info, system-commands etc. do not work. I get errors like: -bash: /gentooplayer/DietPi/dietpi/dietpi-cpuinfo: File o directory non esistente And when I try ln -snf /run/systemd/resolve /resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf I get: -bash: ln : comando non trovato And I cannot install the ln package as there is no internet. Chicken or egg situation? Can you please advise? audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 24 minutes ago, antonellocaroli said: have you resized sda3? sure that the syntax is right? yes, sda3 was resized I retyped the above 3 lines (ln -snf /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf etc.) manually, and now I have internet again. Later this week I will let you know how the systemd version is working out for me... Thanks for your patience! audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 hi Antonello, I have been trying the systemd version of GentooPlayer64, After installing upmpdcli I am able to send DSD256 files from Audirvana+ (on a Windows pc) to GentooPlayer and make music. Actually, I have a preference for systemd above OpenRc, but that is probably because I am more used to systemd's commands. On the other hand: The keyboard layout seems to be different. For instance, when I want to type a hyphen (-) I get an apostrophe ('). The first time I tried to use ramsystem I got all sorts of errors (journal not found, and tasks taking too long). The second time (after a reboot) it looked better and I only got this message: mpd 4809 0.0 0.1 500700 12924 ? Ssl 21:14 0:00 /usr/bin/mpd --no-daemon Mpd is active, but in both cases upmpdcli did not work anymore after copying to RAM, and I get: # systemctl status upmpdcli upmpdcli.service - UPnP Renderer front-end to MPD Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/upmpdcli.service; enabled; vendor preset: disabled) Active: activating (auto-restart) (Result: exit-code) since Thu 2019-01-03 21:31:35 UTC; 11s ago Process: 5331 ExecStart=/usr/bin/upmpdcli -c /etc/upmpdcli.conf (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) Main PID: 5331 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) Looking forward to the next image of GP64 with upmpdcli that hopefully solves this!? Thanks for this really promising project, and just let me know if you need more information. audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Great, I will let you know if I find anything else. Thanks! audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 On 1/2/2019 at 6:21 PM, antonellocaroli said: if you can even try the version systemd would make me a pleasure, and maybe give me your impressions, I would like to bring forward only one, or systemd or openRC .... Today I tried both GentooPlay64 versions: the systemd and OpenRC ones. Apart from the init system the installations are the same with alsa 1.0.29, mpd and upmpdcli (for now without ramsystem). Comparing sound quality, the results are close together, but I do prefer the sound of the systemd version. It is more relaxed, more open (less compressed) and has tighter bass. The difference is subtle but noticeable and important for long listening. Question: @antonellocaroli Systemd is known as a bloated (big) system, and OpenRC as a lean (minimal) system. So why is the GP64 systemd image (1.3GB) smaller than the OpenRC one (2GB) ? audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 hi Antonello, I see that you added upmpdcli and and an indication whether the system runs in RAM. That is great! After using gp-update, both the systemd and openRC versions seem to work well in ramdisk mode, in spite of a few upmpdcli error messages that I do not understand. Is gp-update sufficient, or is it better to download the new images? In ramsystem mode the two versions come closer in SQ but I still have a preference for systemd, especially with higher close harmony voices. It sounds cleaner. Thanks again! audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 32 minutes ago, michaelvv said: I hope for Antonello that the happiness all his effort brings me are a little motivation to keep up the good work. If I could help with something I don't know what his goal is, I will gladly do It for absolutely free. I wholeheartedly agree with michaelvv and would also be happy to assist with testing and translating! Just installed the BIOS/systemd version of GP64 on a new usb flash drive. When trying to activate upmpdcli I noticed that none of the commands for upmpdcli in the players-commands section work. For instance upmrestart gives: "Failed to restart upmpdcli.service: Unit upmpdcli.service not found." Work in progress? audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, antonellocaroli said: if you have suggestions/corrections to the translation you can post them in private ... thanks!!! PM sent. antonellocaroli 1 audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 hi Filippo, Just installed the 1.3 BIOS/systemd version of GP64. Went like a breeze 🙂 I see that under ramsystem you added more ways to make the RamDisk. You also added (L) behind some. Can you please explain? How do we choose? Tonight I will do some listening... Thanks! audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 I have been listening for a few days and I am really enjoying the sound with Audirvana on a Windows machine into mpd (via upmpdcli) on GentooPlayer64. There is one problem, which may not be GP- but Audirvana related, so I posted it here: Just in case anyone here has a suggestion... audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, antonellocaroli said: Ciao Dennis, do not you have another linux system with mpd and upmpdcli to use instead of GP and see if you have the same problem? Ciao Filippo, I had the exact same problem when I was running mpd and upmpdcli under ArchLinux. It looks like a problem with the Audirvana/DSD256/mpd/upmpdcli combination. With HQPlayer/DSD256/NAA (networkd) it is going well, audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 5 hours ago, antonellocaroli said: I tried audirvana on virtual machine to try, but I did not have the problem that you describe .... have you tried to update audirvana? how much Ram do you have on windows? Audirvana seems to want a bit ... I updated Audirvana and exactly copied the settings as in your screenshots. I will play some music tomorrow... Just in case: which DAC are you using? And if it happens to have an Amanero board, which firmware version? Thanks Filippo! audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, michaelvv said: I'm a 100% hardcore tubeamp guy , made my own amps and I have no SMPS in my hifi chain. The Design looks like shit but I do not care. It looks great! audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 11 hours ago, michaelvv said: I mention I read that you have a very very fine DAC yourself. I started this journey for almost 40 years ago, and today it's just unbelievable how far it is from back in time. I had only been on the digital road for 10 years and today I'm fully satisfied with the outcome. Do you feed your DAC from USB or from Toslink/Spdif ??? I'm curious if I could gain something with one of these fancy DDC. I really like my Chord 2qute DAC. Usb I think is the only possibility for the Amanero board. In my case treated with SotM and Regen devices. I am indeed very happy with the Lampizator Lite 7 DAC, but I must say only with the DSD chain. The PCM chain falls behind my previous DAC (Audio Aéro) which was the first device that made digital listenable for me. I still occasionally have PCM listening sessions, enjoying the Audio Aéro's wonderful creamy sound. (Yes, I never could part from it.) I get the impression that now it is possible to almost match the quality of these DACs at a lower price point, and I have seen very good reviews of your Chord. I may find out soon as I am helping a friend to find a good affordable DSD DAC. Do you upsample to DSD at all? Or upsample otherwise? audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 12 hours ago, bodiebill said: I updated Audirvana and exactly copied the settings as in your screenshots. I will play some music tomorrow... Interesting. I listened this morning with the upgraded Audirvana and settings as in Filippo's screenshots, using ramsystem modes 1 and 2 respectively. Twice the music just stopped after about 5 minutes. I then increased Audirvana's 'max. memory allocated' and I just played a 14 min track with no problems. Fingers crossed... Oh, I forgot to say: the 'control pc' with Audirvana is an i7 with 16GB RAM. When upsampling to DSD256 it uses 80% cpu and 20% RAM. P S Strangely enough, with Audirvana set to upsample to DSD256, when I play a DSD64 file, Audirvana still indicates DSD64 as output. I will ask about this on the Audirvana thread. audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 8 hours ago, antonellocaroli said: I have two self-built DACs, one with ak4490 and the other with chip pcm 1704 ... both with the usb Jlsound ... Impressive! audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 5 hours ago, bodiebill said: P S Strangely enough, with Audirvana set to upsample to DSD256, when I play a DSD64 file, Audirvana still indicates DSD64 as output. I will ask about this on the Audirvana thread. To be precise, here is the result of cat /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/sub0/hw_params (1) Audirvana upsampling ro DSD256 (but not really): access: RW_INTERLEAVED format: DSD_U32_BE subformat: STD channels: 2 rate: 88200 (88200/1) period_size: 11025 buffer_size: 44100 (2) HQPlayer upsampling to DSD256 (looks OK) access: RW_INTERLEAVED format: DSD_U32_BE subformat: STD channels: 2 rate: 352800 (352800/1) period_size: 32768 buffer_size: 131072 audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Hmmm, I now also get the hissing sound with HQPlayer into NAA (networkd) after playing approx. 10 minutes. Maybe I should look at my Amanero firmware (now using 2005be) and downgrade to a previous version. This involves opening the DAC and flashing the card... audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Update: I tried to flash Amanero firmware version 2005be again, hoping that it would be reset and the problem (hissing noise after 8-12 min) would be solved. But no, the problem was back and occurs with HQPlayer => NAA as well as Audirvana => upmpdcli => mpd. It looks like a problem with 2005be, at least its compatibility with GentooPlayer. So now I am back to firmware 1099c. As flashing Amanero is not straightforward, I have not tried this yet, but could the problem theoretically be related to using Alsa version 1.0.29? audio system Link to comment
bodiebill Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, antonellocaroli said: mhhh I do not think alsa 1.0.29 is the problem ...but you can try to upgrade... and the kernel is the last available where amanero in dsd is supported like this: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/sound/usb/quirks.c you can see the usb id with the audio command So does that mean that this kernel supports Amanero LE (little-endian) and BE (big-endian)? I am currently using this kernel: GentooPlayer GNU/Linux, con Linux x86_64-4.19.5-rt-rt4-MIN-GP1 Maybe try another kernel? Using the 1099c firmware and upsampling to DSD256, the audio command gives: card0 USB Audio card usb3 --> 16d0:071a Amanero Technologies Combo384 card0 STATUS --> access: RW_INTERLEAVED format: DSD_U32_LE subformat: STD channels: 2 rate: 352800 (352800/1) period_size: 32768 buffer_size: 131072 so this looks like 1099c is little-endian. And of course 2005be is big-endian. Or maybe I should use an alternate setting 2 when flashing the 2005be firmware? A bit over my head, but I am happy to learn... audio system Link to comment
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