Erwin S Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 I will get that XDA-1. It's supposed to replace the DacMagic in our surround setup. But I will hook it up to the stereo first, in duo with the Weiss, for comparison. It also could end up in the spare room which my 16-year old daughter wants to turn into a personal hobby space. In that case, it would revive a 20-year old Philips setup with big tower speakers. She's the one who loads her iPod by browsing my music. So much for the generation clash! Fully Balanced Differential Stereo: Jamo R909 < Emotiva XPA-1 < XLR < Emotiva XSP-1 < Weiss DAC2 < Oyaide d+ FW400/800 < iMac < Synology DS1815+ NAS Software: Amarra Symphony iRC, XLD, iTunes. Link to comment
jbloggs Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 You might want to have a look at the Audio-GD DAC-19: http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/dac/DAC19/DAC19EN.htm I have the DAC-19MK3, which is the predecessor of the DAC-19, before I bought the DAC-19MK3, I had a ZeroDAC, which I compared to the DACmagic, I ended up keeping the ZeroDAC which sound better, in comparing the ZeroDAC to the DAC-19MK3, the latter was considerably better... Link to comment
bixby Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Everything blows me away with the exception of female voices like Neko Case and Bjork often sound unrealistictly grainy/processed. I turned on audio midi upsampling to 88.2 and that seemed to smooth it out a bit. This is typical of some cheaper dacs and setups. Female vocalists are very hard to get right. My ack dack back in the day was close but still no cigar (still cannot stomach NOS, 30 year old chips). I would suggest two possible improvements without changing the dac, but ultimately you may need to do that. 1. Get a good toslink cable and eliminate the adapter. WireWorld 6 or Siliflex glass. Many of the adapters I have tried add a bit of upper midrange glare. 2. Get Pure Music- iTunes has a very broad and slightly exaggerated upper midrange that can sound unnatural to my ears. good luck! Link to comment
bixby Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 re the Emotiva dac. I would hold judgement until you hear it. I had their cheap amp which promised great sound. It was out of my system and replaced by my puny Trends amp in a heartbeat. Good looks, specs good for marketing, and the word discrete don't mean squat. It all comes down to how it sounds. Let us know when you have heard one. Link to comment
jdawg Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 What about the Valab NOS DAC? I don't have one but there are several people that are happy with this DAC and its reasonably cheap too. Link to comment
roscoeiii Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 NOS DACs tend to have a somewhat different character, and like passive preamps, I have found that the ones I have tried tend to work better with certain types of music than others. Particularly, the Moodlab Concept that I had excelled at small scale performances, but when the music or proeduction became more complex, I found that the NOS DAC didn't quite provide the oomph or drive that I was looking for. Link to comment
francoamerican Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I'm curious if anybody has any experience comparing toslink PS Audio DLIII vs HRT Streamer II+. I'm debating between maybe upgrading to one of those two. Also, thanks @bixby I'm trying out pure music right now as I type. FA Link to comment
bixby Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I have heard the PS audio DLIII in my system as well as a friends on numerous occasions. It is a very good value and sounds so much better with Toslink than usb we do not even bother to compare its usb section to anything. I have not heard the HRT but a friend who I trust likes his pro version. You would be hard pressed to find a dac better than the PS DL-III except for maybe my Benchmark DAC1 which I am selling. No, they are just different flavors, both are very nice. I think you would have to go up north of $1k to find any competition. Link to comment
labjr Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 You would be hard pressed to find a dac better than the PS DL-III except for maybe my Benchmark DAC1 which I am selling." You just happened to be selling it? Link to comment
bixby Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 tongue firmly inserted in cheek of course! Link to comment
Hellenback Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Very hard to find a smoother sounding or more feature laden DAC for SP/DIF converter for hi-res out over USB (the coast is still well under $500 with a good USB->SP/DIF converter). (You also get a decent headphone/pre-amp with the Matrix Mini)! I'm looking forward to doing a direct comparison with the LD DAC_I and the DacMagic very soon. Link to comment
jdjaye Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 When it becomes available, it would be great if someone can do a side by side comparison between the Matrix and the Emotive using a uncompressed female vocalist (Eva Cassidy or Diana Krall). If someone with the Matrix is in the NY Metro Area, I'll get the Emotive and we can hook up for a shootout. Best Stereo System: Wired Sonos Connect -> AQ Cinammon Digital Coax -> Marantz SA-8005 -> AA Black Momba 2 interconnects -> Marantz PM-15S2 -> Kimber 8TC speaker Cables -> Zu Soul Superfly speakers. Ingest> NAS> Distribution: Sony Vaio Laptop ripping via ITunes to Apple Lossless, manually synced to WD Mycloud NAS, Linksys 1900AC Router, Netgear Gig E switch, generic Ethernet cables, TPLinc ethernet power line extenders. Link to comment
Forehaven Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 A friend has a Musiland dac he bought off ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/MUSILAND-MD11-USB-DAC-Decoder-AD1853-24bit-192KHz-Amp-/320603459101?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa5748e1d I haven't heard it, but it is said to be very good for the money, $369. Ryzen 7 2700 PC Server, NUC7CJYH w. 4G Apacer RAM as Renderer/LPS 1.2 - IsoRegen/LPS-1/.2 - Singxer SU-1/LPS1.2 - Holo Spring Level 3 DAC - LTA MicroZOTL MZ2 - Modwright KWA 150 Signature Amp - Tidal Audio Piano's. . Link to comment
jdjaye Posted November 19, 2010 Author Share Posted November 19, 2010 Any new discoveries or comparisons? Best Stereo System: Wired Sonos Connect -> AQ Cinammon Digital Coax -> Marantz SA-8005 -> AA Black Momba 2 interconnects -> Marantz PM-15S2 -> Kimber 8TC speaker Cables -> Zu Soul Superfly speakers. Ingest> NAS> Distribution: Sony Vaio Laptop ripping via ITunes to Apple Lossless, manually synced to WD Mycloud NAS, Linksys 1900AC Router, Netgear Gig E switch, generic Ethernet cables, TPLinc ethernet power line extenders. Link to comment
Rollin Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Find something else to add? -- Decware Torii #14 --[br]Old Dell laptop (takes as long as the tubes to warm up) foobar2000-> MK 1 Boxed hiFace->Muse NOS DAC[br]Speakers: Turning Point Audio HR-ONE\'s in Red Link to comment
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