Jeff Dorgay & TONEAudio Declare War on CA

[phototristan]

3 minutes ago, crenca said:

 

Exactly.  RSS is "syndication" - it is intent.  So when you publish nude photos of your wife, ask everyone to syndicate it, and $collect$ because of it, your intention matters.  Then you find out about your neighbor who is leering at your wife, and you ask him not to do so because you live next to him and your embarrassed but you continue your service to everyone else because you $benifit$.

 

You don't get it...

 

We cannot second-guess this. He could have hit a wrong button by mistake on his web app or something, or maybe he's a total idiot and doesn't even know what RSS is. Who cares the reasons. 

 

What we can and do KNOW is he does not intend for it to be published here, from his email. 

 

That CA refuses to do anything is telling for sure. 

[phototristan]

1 minute ago, wgscott said:

 

So what is CA supposed to do, break into his server and change the wordpress setting for him, because he is too incompetent to do so himself?

 

I'm pretty sure he chooses what RSS to syndicate or not. Unless someone is actually holding a gun to his head and saying; publish ToneAudio or else? 

[phototristan]

3 minutes ago, wgscott said:

 It is not CA's responsibility to second-guess the intent.  

 

It's also not CA's responsibility to publish ToneAudio content. Which leads me to wonder, why does CA want to do so badly, even against ToneAudio's wishes? 

 

[phototristan]

1 minute ago, Jud said:

 

I think asking nicely and being willing to listen and learn counts for a lot, don't you? 

 

So because he did not ask nicely, CA is going to keep the content up like as punishment? What is this, first grade? 

[phototristan]

2 minutes ago, christopher3393 said:

 

 

So Jeff has never used any of your photos?

 

https://www.tristantom.com/About-Me/n-XPnxx

 

Nope, if that's even me?

[phototristan]

7 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Hi @phototristan you instagram says you're an "ex Audio engineer."

 

Did you work for an audio company or was this a hobby type thing? Just trying to put the pieces together, not attack you or your work.

 

Community theatre and hobbyist for the most part. I have done sound for bands like Starship and The Platters in in a past work life. 

[phototristan]

1 minute ago, wgscott said:

May I suggest the following remedy:

 

1.  Jeff Dorgay, the publisher of TONEAudio, should write to Chris (CA), apologize for the spurious accusations and threats, and agree to indemnify and hold harmless CA for the RSS posts.

 

2.  CA should remove ToneAudio from from the list of RSS feeds on his website.

 

3.  Jeff Dorgay, the publisher of TONEAudio, should change the Wordpress setting (in the unlikely event that this was a genuine error of intent).

 

Seems reasonable and good online citizenship to me.

[phototristan]

6 minutes ago, Jud said:

@phototristan has now spent approximately 2000% of the time necessary to fix this on raising spurious objections to having the person primarily responsible for the problem perform the simple fix. 

 

I'm not saying he shouldn't, I'm saying he may not know how or he may not be capable of doing so (at least not this quickly) if his website is managed by some web admin. person or something like that.  This is not a reason to just ignore his request though. 

[phototristan]

Just now, wgscott said:

 

If it was a politely-worded "request," rather than a bunch of demands, legal threats and spurious accusations, the outcome might have been more favorable.

 

 I doubt that's the only reason. 

[phototristan]

1 minute ago, crenca said:

 

Christopher already knows all this and he was asking why?  Why has @phototristan gone down this silly road?  What is his personal connection with Jeff?  

 

There is none. I've literally never heard of him until a friend of mine forwarded me this thread.

[phototristan]

1 minute ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

Please let me know about any other reason who can think of.

 

Well,  there's nothing like a good old controversy to bring in more viewers/members. Heck, you and Jeff could even be in cahoots with each other on this. 

[phototristan]

1 minute ago, crenca said:

 

So your just a guy who is unaware of RSS, publishing, internet and are jumping in with false assertions of intent, how to play nice, and the like.  At least your honest...

 

Wrong. It's "you're". 

 

 

[phototristan]

Just now, The Computer Audiophile said:

 

Wow. I'm speechless. 

 

So you are not denying?

[phototristan]

2 minutes ago, wgscott said:

 

It brought you here, which clearly has been a great benefit to all parties involved.

 

I've been here a lot in the past.  I just couldn't remember my old login so I had to create another one. 

[phototristan]

Just now, jtwrace said:

Seem like you and ToneAudio have something in common.  You both don't know how to click a mouse button.  Stop RSS for him and "forgot my password" for you.  

 

Don't think I didn't try.  I think my old account is no longer, it's been years. 

[phototristan]

30 minutes ago, crenca said:

You don't get to drink, drive, and say "my intent was not to break the law or harm anyone"!

 

Legally, you can. Say the drunk-driver hits and kills someone. There's manslaughter vs. murder, all based on intent proven. 

 

 

[phototristan]

1 minute ago, FredM said:

The non cooperative and aggressive attitude is also wrong in my book (resp simply adjust the RSS setting and verbals). What honestly surprised me even more, why did @computeraudiophile post this online? What's there to gain, other then escalate the situation and publicly mock and bully Jeff? 

 

My vote: Time to add dignity and respect in the forum rules.

 

Yep, that's what I've been saying. 

[phototristan]

2 minutes ago, jtwrace said:

It would be so nice if you could stop posting on this thread as you've made your point.  Can you please stop posting on this thread?  

 

Thanks, no. 

[phototristan]

1 minute ago, crenca said:

 

So you wag your finger at others about dignity and respect, but are unwilling to walk the walk yourself.  You are consistence in several ways...

 

No, you mean "consistent". 

[phototristan]

Just now, jtwrace said:

Agreed.  

 

As he continues on..

[phototristan]

1 minute ago, crenca said:

 

Which brings us to voodooism in Audiophiledom and yet another mouthpiece for it in ToneAudio.  Scoundrels jealously guard their con...

 

 

Don't think they don't have sponsors. But this site does too. 

[phototristan]

3 minutes ago, realhifi said:

Wonder why it’s only become an issue with CA?  Clearly Jeff and Tone Audio have been around for quite some time (great website) and has of course been available to other “links” or what not so why do you suppose there is an issue with just CA?

 

i see links to his articles and certainly on the clearing house website “Daily Audiophile”  his site is linked to and he has no issue there.......sooooo?  

 

It's not the links that are the problem. CA re-published the article in it's entirety. 

[phototristan]

2 minutes ago, Audiophile Neuroscience said:

 

Wow lots of pages have gone by since last checking in so forgive me if it has already been mentioned.

 

I could be totally wrong here but my impression was JD didn't want to change the settings of his RSS feed but expected no, demanded Chris not to subscribe. If this is true the question is why. It's like he is implying some sort of understanding for example a gentleman's agreement or some other arrangement that compels Chris to comply. He cites that other audio websites have not trespassed into this area.

 

If one assumes that JD understands how RSS works, and it's a pretty good assumption because Chris told him, then his response is bizarre.... Unless there is something else going on, at least in his mind, to expect the Chris would automatically comply. Indeed if he doesn't comply he will sue the pants off him.

 

Now I realise this makes no sense because even if it was a gentleman's agreement I can't imagine it can be grounds to sue . I'm really just trying to explore where this guy's thinking has gone wrong

 

Both sites get paid by advertisers. Perhaps there are advertisers who do not want cross -content pollination. 

[phototristan]

5 minutes ago, mav52 said:

Wrong , BOOM !

 

Actually, right: 

 

1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Yes, CA publishes an exact bit perfect copy of what Tone Audio pushes out

 

 

[phototristan]

23 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Hi Joel - John Darko and I had a disagreement about his RSS feeds being published here. He suggested a phone call to which I agreed. 

 

We resolved the situation and remain friends. 

 

Pay to play, so to speak?