Liquid Conductors in your Interconnect Cables

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http://www.teoaudio.com/products/liquid-audio-cables/

 

 

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I thought this would be fun for those tired of stopping jitter with regeneration or origami blur discussions.

 

"With a solid conductor, or rather, an alloy or element in a solidus (below melting point) atomic lattice configuration. In such condition, ‘electrical response’ , or electron flow, is restricted to electron orbital ‘co-joined’ pathways in the atomic lattice. This is the situation in what we call ‘DC Flow’ in the given conductor. This relates to named observations like Johnson–Nyquist noise. "

 

YEH BABY!!

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"The liquid metal in the Teo Audio cables, is liquid at the atomic level. Down to the molecular level."

 

got a machete?

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It has the absolute worst BS of any audio site I've seen.

 

"Signal is inherently a plasma. Ionic plasma, or an electron cloud, with a pressure differential..."

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7 minutes ago, mansr said:

Certainly the worst grammar. The BS is squarely in "not even wrong" territory, but that's the norm for audio. Sadly.

 

Yes, I am wondering if it is done by a non-English speaker.  Or Siri...

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wow - that's a great idea

 

anybody want to start a company using Star Trek technobabble to sell cables?

 

Call it Confirmation Bias Cable Company

 

[Ralf11]

"You might be arguing with an ear moron."

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cables filled with liquid poo would eliminate the "potential for interference with the signal cloud" and "show the highest level of inherent lubricity, the highest levels of creep, the highest levels of reflectivity, and the widest range of frequency of reflectivity, all as a set."

 

 

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how does a Class A power FET with low capacitance, and triode like linearity in the necessary voltage range fit in here?

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It certainly does make more sense (but only if one has at least a rudimentary knowledge or electricity... or physics).  I was wondering if the "liquid" cable advocate had such an amp.

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Great idea for a new company!

 

Or we could replace the ladder equivalent circuit model of a cable with...  a ladder DAC !!

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So, are those things legal to sell in California?  

 

And they are apparently imported from Canada - so I wonder about the toxicity issues.

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How long does it take to break these cables in?

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Any of you folks from audiogone use blind testing?  Or is it just confirmation bias?

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The web site description is incoherent BS; they contain toxic materials; there is no known mechanism by which they might act.

 

Other than the above, I'm sure they are well worth the time to play with.

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Genius?

 

And sorry, I am not willing to accept your blandishments on SQ at face value (even if I did trust them for a refund if returned).

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Have you shot up heroin mansr?

 

If not, then move on...

 

Remember there is no way to understand the universe.  Only direct sensory experience counts.  All your base are belong to us.  

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not clear if you missed his point or are deliberately trying to raise a strawman

 

when claims are made that rely on magic, those with even a modicum of scientific education will doubt

 

now, where are the studies showing these things sound better?

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9 minutes ago, bumperdoo said:

 all the theory in the World won't tell you how something sounds.

 

 

I think we are getting to the problem

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I think you are confusing scientists and engineers.

 

 

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most likely because it is not worth his time (plus, they may not honor the refund terms)

 

maybe the guy is a genius but cannot write sentences in English (?) -- or afford someone who can

 

now, who are you bumperdoo?  any relationship with the cable maker?

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19 hours ago, monteverdi said:

The idea of liquid cable derives from the idea that crystal boundaries in normal metal conductors have a negative effect on sound quality and amorphous materials (like liquids) have no crystal boundaries. There have been interconnects made from non liquid amorphous metal wire like the crazy expensive Stealth ones but I never heard them as I am not into this obsession. 

P.S: What about the safety of these mercury replacement thermometers containing a similar liquid metal?

 

Thx for a rational post.  but...

 

1.  amorphous in materials science refers to a non-crystalline solid  - tho I get your meaning

2. I've never heard of any science to suggest that anything like this could affect sound

3. Strong claims that diverge from known physics requires strong evidence - where are the reliable listening studies?

 

Finally, here is a simple primer on some of these issues:

http://web.mit.edu/sahughes/www/8.022/lec05.pdf

 

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7 minutes ago, OldBigEars said:

 

... actual research ...

 

What does "actual research" mean to you?

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 a simple listening test can be worthwhile but is hardly what I think of a research

 

the term toxic is an interesting one, given the contents in the cables - I have to wonder if it is even legal for them ship these into the US

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if confused, listen to the music play

 

then,

 

1. upgrade your speakers

2. do room treatments

3. upgrade the source material

4. upgrade your DAC

5. Grand Cru or aged single-malt