microRendu and MQA

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According to Hans' Youtube video (advance to 12:13 minutes in the video) he was advised my Merdian that MQA did not use DRM.

 

 

Depends how you define DRM. Some disagree with Meridian's assessment.

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36 minutes ago, DarwinOSX said:

 

Totally agree.  If it doesn't do MQA decoding or passthrough  I'm not buying.  That, Roon, and Airplay support are must haves for me at this point.

Have you actually listened to MQA? I have. Reaction: meh.

 

Some records sounded better, some about the same, some worse. Difficult to compare because clearly some of the MQA albums were also remastered. Not something I'd base major purchase decisions around. Any well done recording/ remaster will make a bigger positive difference than MQA. So will making even a small improvement in your  room acoustics.

 

You can get an MQA DAC for about $100. I'd try one or borrow one before making it the basis of my decisions.

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1 hour ago, DarwinOSX said:

 

Yes of course I have.  Extensively.  Like most people I hear major improvements.

The MQA dac you are referring to is the Dragonfly black that only does the first unfold.  I have the Meridian Explorer 2 that does the full unfold.

For someone who doesn't know much about MQA it is odd that you assume I haven't even heard it.

"Most people hear major improvements" is just a conjecture on your part. No actual data behind it. Only your impressions. Your impressions aren't data or facts. No one knows what "most people" think.

 

I apparently know more about MQA than you. The Dragonfly Black doesn't do the first unfold. It is a renderer, which means it applies the MQA "deblurring". It depends on desktop software to do the unfold.

If you look hard the ME2, which actually processes MQA, can be had for about $130. I've done plenty of MQA experiments with it and aren't particularly impressed by MQA.

As I said, I think there are much more effective ways to improve a sound system, and they work for all files, not just MQA files. That's why I don't think it should be anyone's priority in buying equipment.

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6 hours ago, DarwinOSX said:

Heh.  Bzztt.  

I understand some people have to pooh pooh anything new but it sounds like you have some reading to do.

 

 

 

 

 

Really? I don't "pooh-pooh" new things. Look at my sig. And if I wasn't willing to try new things, I wouldn't have bought an ME2 just to try MQA.  My opinion about MQA, based on listening, is different than yours. Sorry if it is tough for you to deal with. 

 

Telling me I have reading to do is rich: you're the one who didn't understand how MQA and the DF Black work. 

I love it when arrogance is matched with ignorance. 

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58 minutes ago, witchdoctor said:

Rather pretentious to claim you are the wisest person in the world, don't you think? Why not just start a new thread, you can call it
"Why I am always right and you are all just numb skulls"

What's your problem?

 

I made no such claim. DarwinOSX made a statement about how MQA and the Dragonfly work that was patently incorrect, while at the same time accusing me of not understand it and suggesting I read up on the subject.

So not pretentious to claim I know more about it than him - which is all I claimed. It apparently is true, based on his demonstrated lack of understanding of the subject. 

 

He also claimed that "most people" agree with him about MQA. Based on what? There's no basis for such a claim. If you and he like it say so. I have no argument with your taste. But don't try the tired tactic of claiming your opinions have the authority of "most people". 

 

Sorry you don't like the tone, but calling that ignorant isn't pretentious, it's simply a fact. Not understanding your own lack of knowledge and telling others they should "readup" on the subject is clearly also arrogant. 

 

Read the posts again. I reacted to his statement that MQA was a must have feature. So I asked him if he had actually heard it. The truth is that it's pretty clear  that "most audiophiles" still haven't heard MQA. (You pretty much can't unless you have one of a very few new DACs, some specific software, and a subscripton to Tidal or a small number of downloadable files for comparison). At that point he hadn't stated what his experience is with it. I wasn't asking to put him down, but to understand if he was merely taking a position based on enthusiasm without experience or one from experience. I guess I should have phrased it better.  I didn't say MQA sucked, criticize him personally for liking it, or accuse him of having no taste, etc. I simply stated that I didn't think MQA added much to the overall  listening experience and that there are more effective ways to improve a system.  

 

But, apparently the fact that I don't share his enthusiasm for MQA is very hard for him to take. He also used that as a jumping off point to engage in personal invective about how I must be someone who "pooh-poohs" anything new. Without a shred of evidence, I might add.

 

So it's pretty clear who's being intolerant and operating from a position not based on facts. Hint: it isn't me. 

 

Or is the real issue simply that you also can't take it when someone isn't a MQA fanboy?