The "Official" Aurender Discussion Thread

[bbosler]

How are you connecting your Rossini to the W20SE? I just got a Rossini and clock and considering the Aurender. My main hesitation is I am so enamored with Roon and all Aurender supports is Airplay.

 

Have you tried the clock and/or different clocks on your Rossini?

 

thanks

 

[bbosler]

7 hours ago, bbosler said:

How are you connecting your Rossini to the W20SE? I just got a Rossini and clock and considering the Aurender. My main hesitation is I am so enamored with Roon and all Aurender supports is Airplay.

 

Have you tried the clock and/or different clocks on your Rossini?

 

thanks

 

 

sorry to quote myself, but I read the article about DSP and Mitch Barnett and took the plunge. Very happy with the Audiolense filters Mitch put together for me using Roon on Mac Mini. So does this mean if using the W20SE you have to abandon Roon and convolution or is there a way to add these filters with the W20SE? 

[bbosler]

thanks everyone for the input and advice. So the search continues. Looks like a Roon server is the best option, not that I couldn't live without the library management even though I do really like Roon radio, but I am not going to give up the convolution filters. . The Innuos Statement looks like a candidate,, or just go old school and get the Nucleus

[bbosler]

On 6/15/2020 at 9:02 PM, kilroy said:

It's really too much and I'm looking for ways to decrease the warmth. I'm actually thinking of swapping the Pass for a more neutral amp but only if I have to. Maybe there's another solution?

 

go back to the server you had before.,, if it was neutral why change it? .. or try a different server...  why change a bunch of other stuff because you added a server that doesn't seem to suit your system?

[bbosler]

8 hours ago, Noushy said:

And remember the hardware is far superior to any PC even one built with a focus for audio

 

I would remember that an Aurender is just another computer built with a focus for audio.  It is yet another implementation of a Linux based music server. Believe what you want, but there is nothing magical about a proprietary computer that was designed for/by Aurender to run their servers versus a computer that can also be used as a personal computer. 

 

"far superior" is of course relative, so can't be defined, but a computer is a computer is a computer so it is a superlative I'm not buying into.

 

"It also starts up quicker and is much more reliable."

 

Once you boot it up who cares about how quickly it starts? Most computers boot up very quickly anyway and are super reliable so I would say these are both non-issues.

[bbosler]

2 minutes ago, merge03 said:

The statement that "a computer is a computer is a computer" is an over generalization that ignores tomes of hardware and software engineering history.

 

cherry picking one statement from my comments and ignoring the rest is an "over generalization" that distracts from and completely ignores the point of my post.

[bbosler]

To clarify.. I'm not saying a Raspberry Pi is equivalent to an Aurender. I'm saying that a device tasked with delivering a reliable stream of digital data (a computer) is not dark science. The idea that it needs to cost $10-30,000 to be optimized is in my mind ... ridiculous. I put them in the same category as mega-buck USB cables.. I know that is blasphemy on a site formerly called Computer Audiophile.

 

I don't care to get into a debate about that because quite frankly my mind is made up, and those of you who have invested in these mega-buck servers are convinced otherwise. So that debate is pointless. . Please bear in mind I come to this not from just reading reviews and forums like this one.. I have tried a LOT of different configurations of computers, servers, cables, etc. so it is based on my experience... It is a slow day so I just wanted to jump in and express my opinion ... I appreciate you all putting up with me

[bbosler]

23 minutes ago, kilroy said:

The Aurender sounds better. It's not even close.

 

and I believe you. Of course, that doesn't prove anything other than in your current system one computer sounds better than the other, not that an Aurender computer categorically sounds better than other "computers."

 

my experience is completely different, that's why the debate is pointless. So before Chris jumps in and tells me to quit ... I will do so on my own

 

 

[bbosler]

7 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Don't forget that a company like Aurender pays its employees salaries and health care, has a full time support staff, has duplicate spare parts for all its units just incase they fail, and sells its products through distributors and dealers, and sells at a tiny scale compared to something like a Raspberry Pi

 

That's not germane. The question is not "do they need to charge that much to make a profit." I agree they probably do. 

 

The question is "do I need to pay that much to get the same or better result." Just like the points about value raised in the Extreme discussion,,,  this is obviously a question we will never resolve here.

[bbosler]

2 hours ago, kilroy said:

Yeah here we go again. Seriously man get over it.

 

This was not "again." It was a considered, reasonable response to a new point raised by Chris. His point was not about the value of these computers which I believe we all agreed is pointless to discuss, it was a justification for why they cost so much. Cost and value are 2 very different things so my response was therefore not "again."

 

I hesitated to respond because I don't want this to turn into a pissing contest, but since you have taken it personal by telling me for the second time to go away, I did. When Chris appoints you forum police officer I will pay attention to your directives. In the meantime... IMHO your snarky comments have no place here so will no longer be dignified with a response.