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Paul Simon: Live in New York City (HDTracks, 48kHz/24bit)


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I bought it. I think it is quite good. It seems to be authentic 24 bit. I checked.

 

I have the same question as Julf : could you please share with us how you do this? I would like to perform this sort of check on a couple of files. For the moment I just look at the dynamic range, but this just gives me a rough indication, in the sense that if the DR is 9 or 10 (sometimes less alas), it means the benefits of the 24-bit encoding are not used at all.

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For the moment I just look at the dynamic range, but this just gives me a rough indication, in the sense that if the DR is 9 or 10 (sometimes less alas), it means the benefits of the 24-bit encoding are not used at all.

 

Right - DR gives an indication about the amount of compression used, but doesn't really provide any indication about the actual bit depth of the material. The flac decoder can show cases of totally blatant zero-padding, but can't detect zero-padding if there has been any subsequent filtering, dithering or resampling.

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OK, talking about DR, I guess I should add this:

 

foobar2000 1.1.8 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1

log date: 2013-02-03 13:36:47

 

 

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Analyzed: Paul Simon / Live In New York City

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DR Peak RMS Duration Track

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DR10 -0.10 dB -11.82 dB 4:22 01-The Obvious Child

DR11 -0.17 dB -14.19 dB 4:55 02-Dazzling Blue

DR10 -0.39 dB -12.86 dB 4:11 03-50 Ways To Leave Your Lover

DR11 -0.10 dB -12.49 dB 5:12 04-So Beautiful Or So What

DR11 -0.22 dB -12.38 dB 3:36 05-Mother And Child Reunion

DR9 -0.10 dB -10.51 dB 4:03 06-That Was Your Mother

DR11 -0.10 dB -13.71 dB 6:00 07-Hearts And Bones

DR9 -0.10 dB -10.79 dB 5:56 08-Crazy Love, Vol. II

DR11 -0.10 dB -14.28 dB 5:23 09-Slip Slidin' Away

DR11 -0.10 dB -13.75 dB 4:37 10-Rewrite

DR9 -0.31 dB -10.81 dB 5:00 11-The Boy In The Bubble

DR10 -0.30 dB -13.15 dB 4:03 12-The Only Living Boy In New York

DR11 -0.45 dB -12.73 dB 4:26 13-The Afterlife

DR10 -0.30 dB -12.64 dB 7:25 14-Diamonds On The Soles Of Her Shoes

DR9 -0.10 dB -11.25 dB 4:22 15-Gumboots

DR13 -0.17 dB -18.05 dB 4:34 16-The Sound Of Silence

DR10 -0.10 dB -11.47 dB 3:06 17-Kodachrome

DR9 -0.10 dB -10.63 dB 3:37 18-Gone At Last

DR9 -0.10 dB -10.93 dB 4:31 19-Late In The Evening

DR11 -0.39 dB -14.84 dB 4:03 20-Still Crazy After All These Years

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Number of tracks: 20

Official DR value: DR10

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Another note about dynamic range. Check out this album from 1981. Plain old run of the mill CD...

 

foobar2000 1.1.8 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1

log date: 2013-02-05 18:14:34

 

 

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Analyzed: Grace Jones / Nightclubbing

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DR Peak RMS Duration Track

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DR14 -0.55 dB -16.64 dB 4:19 01-Walking in the Rain

DR14 0.00 dB -16.45 dB 4:41 02-Pull up to the Bumper

DR14 -0.08 dB -15.93 dB 5:05 03-Use Me

DR15 0.00 dB -17.80 dB 5:05 04-Nightclubbing

DR16 -3.02 dB -21.48 dB 2:39 05-Art Groupie

DR14 -2.03 dB -18.50 dB 4:29 06-I've Seen That Face Before (Libertango)

DR15 -1.22 dB -18.59 dB 4:02 07-Feel Up

DR11 -3.40 dB -17.53 dB 4:03 08-Demolition Man

DR13 -4.34 dB -20.73 dB 3:50 09-I've Done It Again

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Number of tracks: 9

Official DR value: DR14

 

 

Samplerate: 44100 Hz

Channels: 2

Bits per sample: 16

Bitrate: 742 kbps

Codec: FLAC

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Your fbits shell script.

 

Ah, OK. The problem with that is that it only detects "first hand" zero-padding - any filtering, dithering or resampling hides the evidence. If it tells you something is 16 bit, then it definitely is 16 bit and not 24 bit, but if it tells you something is 24 bit, it might or might not be for real.

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