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    How To Rip High Resolution Blu-ray Audio

    dm-br-thumb.pngThe recent release of Neil Young's Archives on Blu-ray Disc piqued my interest in the Blu-ray format. The audio on Neil's <i>Archives</i> is at 24/192 for the Blu-ray box compared to 24/96 for the standard DVD box and 16/44.1 for the CD box. I have no desire to purchase a dedicated Blu-ray player, but I am very excited about the possibility of ripping audio off Blu-ray discs that I legally own. Ripping Blu-ray content is not the easiest task and I was initially unsure if I could actually get the audio from a Blu-ray Disc. Instead of purchasing the whole <i>Archives</i> box for a few hundred dollars, I picked up the Dave Matthews & Tim Reynolds: Live at Radio City Blu-ray Disc. This way I wouldn't have a box full of expensive unplayable discs if my little project went awry.

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    <b>Hardware</b>

     

    <img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2009/0607/pioneer-br-drive.jpg" style="padding: 5pt 10pt 7pt 5pt;" align="left">I needed a Blu-ray drive and the right combination of software to get started on this journey. I picked up a <a href="http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Shop/DVD-Burners/ci.BDC-2202.Shop">Pioneer BDC-2202</a> internal Blu-ray drive for about $150 at a local computer store. Since Mac OS X does not support Blu-ray, my plan was to use Windows Vista Ultimate 64-Bit running on a Boot Camp partition on my Mac Pro. Unfortunately it took me about 15 hours to realize this plan was not going to work as designed. The Blu-ray drive connects to a computer motherboard via a single SATA connector. Mac Pro computers have two available SATA ports on the motherboard so I thought I was in the clear. After fighting with Widows Vista for hours and hours trying to get it to recognize the Blu-ray drive I was ready to scrap the whole project. After some "Googling" I found out the available SATA ports in a Mac Pro do not function with any operating system other than OS X.

     

    I then started to work my backup plan. I installed the Blu-ray drive into the Dell 530 that I configured for the <a href="http://www.computeraudiophile.com/Audiophile-Reference-Music-Server-For-A-Song"><i>Audiophile Reference Music Server for a Song</i></a> article. The operating system immediately recognized the Pioneer drive and I was on to the software portion of this journey. Note: No special drive software or applications included with the drive are required.

     

     

     

     

     

    <b>Software</b>

     

    Ripping Blu-ray discs can involve several processes and several software applications. The process for ripping video is a little different from ripping audio. I will concentrate on ripping high resolution audio off Blu-ray discs. Audio seems easier than ripping the whole shebang.

     

     

     

    Software Required:

     

    1. <a href="http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html">AnyDVD HD</a> from SlySoft. Currently Windows only and $55 after 21 day trial.

    2. <a href="http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html">tsMuxeR</a> from SmartLabs. Freeware for Windows, Linux, and OS X.

     

    Additional Windows Based Software May Be Required in some instances:

     

    1. <a href="https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0856EACB-4362-4B0D-8EDD-AAB15C5E04F5&displaylang=en">Microsoft .NET Framework Version 2.0</a>

    2. <a href="http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=57023">Avisynth</a>

    3. <a href="http://www.ffdshow.info/">ffdshow</a>

    4. <a href="http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/">Haali Media Splitter</a>

     

     

     

     

     

    <b>Blu-ray Disc</b>

     

    <img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2009/0607/blur-ray-logo-33.png" style="padding: 5pt 10pt 7pt 5pt;" align="left">As previously stated, I used the Dave Matthews & Tim Reynolds: Live at Radio City Blu-ray Disc. I selected this disc in part because the back cover clearly displayed the details about the disc that I wanted to know. if only all Blu-ray discs were this detailed.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Video/Audio?

    - 9-camera, HiDef shoot?

    - Full 1080P24 HD resolution?

    - 16:9 Wide screen format?

    - PCM Stereo Sound (48kHz/24bit)?

    - Dolby TrueHD 5.1 Surround Sound (96kHz/24bit)?

    - Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Sound (640 kbps)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    <b>The Ripping Process</b>

     

    This process will be limited in part by the speed of your Blu-ray drive. I recommend you purchase the fastest drive you can find otherwise you'll need to set it and forget it until the next day.

     

    1. Install AnyDVD HD

    2. Start AnyDVD HD

    3. Right click the AnyDVD HD icon in the Windows system tray and select Rip Video DVD to Harddisk.

     

    Once the ripping is complete the unencrypted files will have a directory structure similar to that pictured below.

     

     

     

     

    <center> <a href="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2009/0607/file-structure-full.png"><img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2009/0607/file-structure-30.png" alt="Rip Blu-ray File Structure"></a> </center><center>click to enlarge</center>

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    4. Open tsMuxeR

    5. Click the Add button on the upper-right side and browse to the largest m2ts file located in the newly created STREAM directory.

    6. Under the Tracks section of tsMuxeR select the audio version desired. In my case it's the LPCM two channel 24/48 version.

    7. Under the Output section select Demux

    8. Select the Start Demuxing button on the bottom of the tsMuxeR window and wait.

     

     

     

    <center> <a href="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2009/0607/tsmuxer-1-full.png"><img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2009/0607/tsmuxer-1-33.png" alt="Rip Blu-ray File tsMuxeR"></a> </center><center>click to enlarge</center>

     

     

     

     

     

    The output will be a single large WAV Audio file that can be imported into any playback application or converted to another format. I have yet to break up this single file into individual files for each track, but since it's a live concert I kind of like the continuity of a single file and I actually listen to the whole concert in a single sitting. I chose to convert to AIFF and add album art in iTunes. Once added to the iTunes library it's possible to look at the track information and see the Sample Size and Sample Rate to make sure the audio has not been downsampled. In an effort to save disk space downsampling can occur automatically by some applications designed to rip Blu-ray. tsMuxeR did not downsample the audio track in any of my tests.

     

     

     

     

     

    <center> <a href="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2009/0607/itunes-screenshot-full.png"><img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2009/0607/itunes-screenshot-33.png" alt="Rip Blu-ray File Audio 01"></a> </center><center>click to enlarge</center>

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    <center> <a href="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2009/0607/itunes-get-info%3Dscreenshot-full.png"><img src="http://images.computeraudiophile.com/graphics/2009/0607/itunes-get-info%3Dscreenshot-50.png" alt="Rip Blu-ray File Audio 02"></a> </center><center>click to enlarge</center>

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    <b>Conclusion</b>

     

    Since I spent a couple days on this journey I'm pretty sure I can complete the whole process blindfolded. The tough part was figuring all of this stuff out and exactly what was the minimum required to rip Blu-ray audio. This is a huge plus for all the Computer Audiophile readers. I waste my time so you don't have to :~) (That kind of sounds like one of those slimy personal injury lawyer commercials). The whole process is really two steps. 1. Rip the Blu-ry disc to your hard drive, and 2. Demux the m2ts file to a WAV. Now that I've successfully completed a Blu-ray audio rip, I think it's time to purchase the Neil Young Archives!

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     




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    Chris,<br />

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    Thanks for sharing the step-by-step guide regarding the ripping process. I only bump into this excellent guide recently. I followed the guide and successfully extracted the audio track from the Blu-ray. However, there are two problems:-<br />

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    1. The output wave file is a single continuous file. Whilst this may be OK for a concert, I was wondering if there is a way to break the wave file into individual tracks. Any advancement of technology in the ripping process during the past 18 months?<br />

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    2. Most of audio files of the Blu-ray disks have 6 output sound channels. This diminishes the practical value of the ripping process as most of the audiophiles are really looking of the 2-channel version. Further, I believe most hi-fi DAC is only capable of handling 2 channels.<br />

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    Any solution to the above problems? Many thanks in advance.

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    Allows you to choose to only rip the 2 channel audio track, as opposed to the video and the multichannel audio.<br />

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    As far as breaking the large files into the individual tracks, AFAIK you still need to edit them manually with an editor that can handle high-rez material.<br />

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    I've been ripping some holiday gifts the last few days, so I can confirm that this guide is still working! Looking forward to listening to the 24/192 Le Noise instead of the Redbook.<br />

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    The bonus material from "The Promise", too

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    The first thing that popped into my head as I read this was...<br />

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    "Great" yet another way the music industry and artists can make it MORE difficult to distribute their art.. what a yawn... <br />

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    At least your article described the wonderful benefits of keeping everything within the one music library, rather than on "YADF" (yet another disc format)<br />

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    Funny how Neil (not so) Young chose this path of distribution..<br />

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    Couldn't see Radiohead or Muse doing this, but be more than happy to be proven wrong :)<br />

    As for Justin Beiber?<br />

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    What we need is more of this via sites like HDtracks, even the artists own websites. Not on Blu Ray.....!<br />

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    This is a typical music industry retrograde step IMHO... <br />

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    Oh well. "Comes a time" I guess.

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    Sauerball, great recommendation here, thanks! The one stumbling block I had is now overcome with the wonderful HD DVD/BluRay Stream Extractor in combination with eac3to on a Windows 7 Virtual Machine on my Mac Pro. Been ripping the 2-channel high-rez PCM tracks from BluRay's like Talking Heads Stop Making Sense (excellent 24/96 PCM track), Neil Young's Le Noise, etc. I just ordered a used HD-DVD of The Eagles Farewell Tour, just so I can attach my XBox HD-DVD drive to my Windows 7 VM and rip the 24/96PCM from that! I never thought I'd buy another HD-DVD or even use my old Xbox add-on drive, but with the BluRay/HD-DVD extractor, why the heck not??? I'm gonna keep an eye out for any used HD-DVD's I can find, sometimes you see some gems out there. Thanks again for your help and advice.<br />

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    -By the way, all the high rez audio ripping and high rez download purchasing I've been doing lately (and there has been TONS!), all of it has been for the end game of using my PS Audio PWD DAC and integrated bridge to stream all this lovely high rez audio from my NAS to the main listening room in the house. Working great and getting much use out of the Bridge, absolutely love it! Sound quality is outstanding! <br />

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    Anyways, cheers man, thanks for filling a gap for me in my process.<br />

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    By the way, after ripping to a VERY large .WAV file, of course you need to split it into tracks, even with the live concerts, so you can at least properly index to the next song. I'm using Adobe Audition on the Mac (currently in Beta) to split the tracks and label them properly. Works like a charm. This is of course child's play for Audition, compared to the complexity of its other functions, but it does have such a nice waveform view, makes finding gaps and inserting track markers really easy. When done, simply use the Export feature to export the audio between markers as files, and Audition labels the files according the markers you've inserted. Perfect result from which you can easily transcode to FLAC, or whatever chosen format for inserting proper meta-data, etc. For me, the Audition wav files output will be converted using Max to FLAC (with metadata and artwork added), then converted one last time to 320kbps MP3 for my handheld devices. The high-rez FLAC's will go up on my music server for both the PWD DAC/Bridge and for my music server to serve to me remotely when I'm travelling. Ahh yes, a labor of love. <br />

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    Cheers guys.

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    hi chris/anyone<br />

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    i ripped a bd audio and have the file in wave format.<br />

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    i can play the file on my mac with itunes.<br />

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    i want to convert the file to FLAC so i can play in using decibel program.<br />

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    can you please let me know what program you recommend on a mac to convert the wave to a FLAC file?<br />

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    thanks<br />

    mark<br />

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    I have been experimenting with different software to RIP 2-channel from my concert discs and am bummed to see the very few are really hi-rez. <br />

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    Most of them have turned out to be 16-48 with an occasional 24-48. I have only found 1 in my collection so far to be 24-192 (2L The Nordic Sound).<br />

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    The jacket covers usually list the protocol, but not the bit depth and sample rates. So far, a lot of work to find out most of it is just marketing !!!

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    The easiest app to use for converting between the various lossless file formats for the Mac is XLD, a freeware program that can be found here:<br />

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    http://tmkk.pv.land.to/xld/index_e.html<br />

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    FWIW, I find myself using XLD exclusively these days for all my audio file conversion needs. The only thing it won't covert is raw DTS files (ie, fines with the suffix .dts), but that is about the only thing I have found that it can't do. XLD will also process most cue file sets, which is a rarity on the Mac platform (Roxio Toast only handles bin/cue file pairs).

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