Quadran Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Just downloaded. Will listen tonight. foobar2000 1.1.8 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1 log date: 2011-12-02 13:25:31 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Analyzed: Fleetwood Mac / Tango In The Night -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR15 0.00 dB -16.75 dB 3:42 01-Big Love DR15 -0.38 dB -17.42 dB 3:43 02-Seven Wonders DR14 -1.23 dB -19.49 dB 3:47 03-Everywhere DR16 -0.18 dB -19.31 dB 3:55 04-Caroline DR14 -3.20 dB -20.86 dB 4:03 05-Tango In The Night DR13 -4.35 dB -19.83 dB 3:12 06-Mystified DR14 -1.88 dB -18.24 dB 3:41 07-Little Lies DR14 -1.82 dB -17.77 dB 4:07 08-Family Man DR15 -0.73 dB -18.48 dB 3:43 09-Welcome To The Room...Sara DR14 -1.50 dB -17.30 dB 4:14 10-Isn't It Midnight DR12 -6.48 dB -22.78 dB 3:49 11-When I See You Again DR13 -3.17 dB -19.24 dB 2:41 12-You And I, Part II -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Number of tracks: 12 Official DR value: DR14 Samplerate: 192000 Hz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 24 Bitrate: 5167 kbps Codec: FLAC ================================================================================ Link to comment
Harry K Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I'm very tempted. Since you have already pulled the trigger I will wait for your impressions. With thanks. Link to comment
cfelliot Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Bought last night - 192k/24! This is one of my favorite FM albums. I was not disappointed. It sounds fantastic. Chuck Elliot Emotiva XDA-1 Sony BDPS560 (Bluray) SA 8300HD DVR (Time Warner) Onkyo 808 (spot reserved for Emotiva XMC-1) Emotiva UPA-5 Emotiva UPA-2 Anthem MCA-20 (Sub Amp) Klipsch Heresy III - L/R Klipsch Heresy I - C Klipsch Heresy I - L/R Surrounds JBL HLS-810 L/R Rear Surrounds NHT 1259 Subs 2-Homebuilt Link to comment
Harry K Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I'm going to give it a try. Link to comment
cjf Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I just purchased the 24/96 version and am not liking what I see on the spectrum plot. Looks like someone took a machete to frequencies above 20K. Waveform looks beautiful but spectrum looks ugly. My Audio System -Last Updated May 20 2021 Link to comment
cfelliot Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I ask the following for clarification and not to be argumentative. Why does HD mandate content above 20kHz? It seems what we are really looking for in HD is a reduction in the granularity of the digital signal and an increase in dynamic range. Chuck Elliot Emotiva XDA-1 Sony BDPS560 (Bluray) SA 8300HD DVR (Time Warner) Onkyo 808 (spot reserved for Emotiva XMC-1) Emotiva UPA-5 Emotiva UPA-2 Anthem MCA-20 (Sub Amp) Klipsch Heresy III - L/R Klipsch Heresy I - C Klipsch Heresy I - L/R Surrounds JBL HLS-810 L/R Rear Surrounds NHT 1259 Subs 2-Homebuilt Link to comment
cjf Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 I agree that it doesn't necessarily have to contain freq over 20khz to be HD as long as the musical content that was originaly present on the recording isn't cut off or quickly rolled off before it fully peaks. I have recordings in 24/48 that sound amazing despite looking exactly like a 16/44 Red book file. One example of this would be Peter Gabriel- Half Blood album found on B&W Society of Sound website. My Audio System -Last Updated May 20 2021 Link to comment
Pedal Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Tango In The Night is a multitrack analog tape recording from 1987. The mastertape probably doesnt carry much ultrasonic content >20kHz. What's important is that they have not done any post dynamic compression. Looking on the waveforms, it seems we really do get a flat transfer. DR14 is a high number for such a pop album. Also we get the accuracy of 24bit, which better preserves the liquid analog mastertape sound. Another important parameter is noise reduction. Because digital audio playback is noiseless, compared with vinyl, the digital mastering engineer can be tempted into applying post noise reduction to old analog recording. That can be a real turn-off, soundwise, making the treble range sound rather dull. If I can have my old rock/pop favourites reissued in hi-rez, without compression or noise reduction, and with 24bit accuracy, then I am satisfied! Thanks to HD Tracks for releasing another majore artist album in hi-rez. Natural born audiophile and music lover with a few thousand classic rock and jazz albums heard through: Dedicated PC > XXHighEnd > Phasure NOS1 DAC > Active preamp > 3-way active XO > 3kW SS amps > DIY linesource speakers (a 200cm ribbon, 12 7" mid drivers and 7 12" bass drivers each channel) > acoustical treated 45m2 listening room. Dedicated mains line, DIY silver/cotton cables, etc etc. Link to comment
cjf Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 You have no disagreement from me in terms of the waveform. It looks tasty Unfortunately I can't agree with you that the original master tape probably didn't carry much info above 20khz. To these eyes the content was there. There is a bunch of signal cut at 20k abruptly that has no visible partner above 20k. The content must have been there otherwise they wouldn't have any signal spikes at all that stretch beyond that point. My Audio System -Last Updated May 20 2021 Link to comment
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