ray-dude Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Superdad said: Funny thing is: DAC and other digital engineers (especially if you get into RF, telecommunications, and microwave engineering) deal with the ground-plane and clock issues in their designs as a matter-of-course. Really nothing new of controversial about any of it. +1000 this. The amount of hard core engineering that goes into these factors is off the charts. I too find it amazing that folks extrapolate idealized abstractions to how things actually work at the physical layer. Abstractions are critical for operating at a higher level (network stacks, switches, kernels, etc), but we have to focus on the reality at the level of reality we're trying to manage/optimize. If you care about the ground and reference voltage plane and how noise (and self induced noise) on these planes impacts a D to A circuit, you have to operate at that level, not the bits are bits level. If you're building a streaming service, you operate at the socket and protocol level, not the bits are bits level. Different horses for different courses, and a large part of the art of engineering is the wisdom to know which idealized abstractions to apply and optimize for different design challenges. happybob 1 ATT Fiber -> EdgeRouter X SFP -> Taiko Audio Extreme -> Vinnie Rossi L2i-SE w/ Level 2 DAC -> Voxativ 9.87 speakers w/ 4D drivers Link to comment
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