Euphony OS w/Stylus player setup and issues thread

[casperhn]

Hello, Im new user with trial Euphony v4. I have some issue when play native DSD mode with my Dac

 

My device include: Audiobyte hydra Z (DDC) and Rockna wavedream (Dac). I tested 2 way connection:
The first: PC --> Usb cable --> Hydra Z --> I2S cable --> Rockna wavedream Dac
The other way: PC --> Usb cable --> Rockna wavedream Dac

1. With both connect, euphony only show in Hardware detail of DAC is Hydra Z.

2. With both two connection, I can't play native DSD (test with DSD64) (I already config in setting DSD playback: Native). My Dac played native DSD file on Windows 10 (Jriver app with Asio driver). I consider that the reason come from protocol between Euphony/Linux with Usb/i2s on DAC. Both of my DDC and Dac using Amanero chip on intergated board, on Amanero website said that: need update firmware to play native dsd 512 on Linux. (I think dsd 64/128 still work well with current firmware on my device).

 

I hope that, someone have the same device or have more experience can help me

 

Thanks so much

 

[casperhn]

On 9/6/2022 at 11:59 AM, PavelDosko said:

Hi casperhn, Rockna Wavedream is an absolutely excellent DAC, but if the data source is a Linux distribution, you have to play DSD in DoP mode.

Thanks. I hope in next time, euphony can support to play native DSD

[casperhn]

On 9/6/2022 at 12:43 PM, Chopin75 said:

I had same issue using a different DDC and different DAC with euphony. The maker (Audio-gd) needs to give me a different FW to use on the DDC to make it work for Linux. U may need to ask Hydra X (seems this one is the issue) to give a FW that can accept Linux properly for DSD native.  It is a pain in the butt to play DSD but the reward is really great! Euphony playing DSD can be really good... I find native DSD better than DoP which tends to have pops and other issues at least on my DAC. (and DSD native sounds a bit better, though supposedly they are the same..blah,...). 

Hello,

Good news, You only need to update DDC firmware and it work well with DAC. Your DDC using Xmos or Amanero Chip set?

 

if you connect direct from PC to DAC (remove DDC), what happend when play DSD native?

 

Thanks you!

 

[casperhn]

On 9/6/2022 at 1:09 PM, PavelDosko said:

This is not Euphony's issue, this is a problem on Rockna's side that out of all Linux distributions, DSD "only" plays in DoP mode.

Oh, really? Can you give me the offical information about it. Because, Im finding the way to update firmware for Linux of Amanero chip (CPLD and CPU) on my DDC and test again. 

[casperhn]

On 9/6/2022 at 1:46 PM, PavelDosko said:

Rockna's technical specifications do not state this, only that the Linux USB driver does not need to be installed, unfortunately DSD native only plays it via ASIO, Linux really only DSD DoP (max DSD128). I am owner of Rockna Wavedream Bal Sig and I dont see any problem with this fact.

Thanks. It maybe seem play Tidal with MQA, Rockna wavedream don't support MQA and auto convert.

I still using Stylus. What type you used? HQP or Roon

[casperhn]

2 hours ago, Chopin75 said:

To clarify - My DAC actually can use Native DSD via euphony but with the added DCC which uses amanero it did not work and would need new FW for Linux DSD; but my DAC uses different USB chip - I think the F1 from pink faun.  So that has no issue. I suspect you may need FW for both DAC and DDC. Maybe Amanero can give you such FW ?  

Both of DDC and DAC is different brand but same Group. As Mr. PavelDosko said: Rockna only support DSD file via DOP.

Because, my DDC discontinued many year ago and dont have any update support from AudioByte brand. Maybe i try to update firmware of Amanero on DDC and test with another DAC. 

[casperhn]

3 hours ago, Chopin75 said:

Yah i guess that might work.  U can

also get the DCC from audio-gd but i would definitely comfirm with Audio-gd

to make sure

it is compatible with your DAC, esp if u use I2S output. ; didn’t the audioByte moved to somewhere in US? I got an email from that guy once a while back. 

Pls let me model of your DDC. I prefer Gaia from Denafrips. Audiobyte is brand of Rockna Electronics, and they have new product just call Hydra stack

[casperhn]

On 9/7/2022 at 11:57 AM, Chopin75 said:

Yah i guess that might work.  U can

also get the DCC from audio-gd but i would definitely comfirm with Audio-gd

to make sure

it is compatible with your DAC, esp if u use I2S output. ; didn’t the audioByte moved to somewhere in US? I got an email from that guy once a while back. 

Hello,

Im very happy to let you know after update amanero firmware on my DDC --> my Dac can play native Dsd with Euphony via I2S connection (tested with dsd64) without any update for it

Have little issue: because Audiobyte didn't continued support Hydra Z DDC, i update direct from Amanero's tools. After finish, my DDC change name to Amanero combo384.

 

Thanks for your guide!!!