Any MSB fans here ?

[Music Enthusiast]

1 hour ago, matthias said:

 

I neither like their gear, nor can afford it.

 

Matt

Do you have any experience with MSB DAC's in your own system?

[Music Enthusiast]

37 minutes ago, matthias said:

 

Not in mine system, but I listened to MSB at several audio shows, mainly High End Munich. 

The worst experience was HE Munich this year:

AFAIK MSB Select with some active speakers and both guys from MSB were present.

Boring, clinical, without emotions.......

 

Matt

Did the active speakers use DSP crossovers? If so the sound you didn't like could have been from that. Because the analog outputs from the MSB would have to go through an ADC/DSP/DAC before the amplifiers. 

[Music Enthusiast]

4 minutes ago, matthias said:

 

Did not ask them, I wanted to leave the room asap.

Did not understand at all how to set-up such a system, offending the visitor.

 

Matt

So there's a good chance that what you didn't like was the speakers/room combination. I find it very hard to believe it's possible to judge a DAC alone in an unknown room, with unknown gear. The only impressions I put weight on is when one has the DAC in there own system for an extended period of time, and had a chance to extensively compare with other DAC's in the same class, in the same system. 

[Music Enthusiast]

6 minutes ago, matthias said:

 

Then I am wondering why they neglect european audiophiles.

 

Matt

Is there no dealers that allow home demo's? The only good way to demo a DAC is in your own system. There's too many variables at play when listening on a system/room combination that is unknown to you. 

[Music Enthusiast]

Would be nice to get more feedback from people who have heard it in their own systems. Not just read about it on the Internet, or heard it at a show. Next thing people will be posting reviews on USB cables because they heard them at a show connected to a $200K system. Or seen a picture online somewhere. All useless information.