franz159 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 On 11/27/2018 at 10:06 PM, qwak said: From my experience, sound quality of Raspberry Pi streamer depend greatly on what HAT you use, as Dmitre mentioned 502 DAC is great (I haven't heard it personally). I like very much Digione Signature powered by batteries. If you plan to use straight path from raspberry USB to your DAC I dont think you will hear benefits compared to NUC... With great S/PDIF transport you should beat regular PC or NUC or even a lot of commercial streamers easily... Also it is very easy to change operating system in Raspberry Pi- you just swap micro SD card in few seconds- so you can very easily try Volumio, Mood audio, picore player, ropieee etc and choose one you like most. Volumio is great, probably best UI and feature set of all RPi systems - you can stream Tidal and Qobuz (but this is with 2,99€ subscription) but I was experiencing dropouts regularly with higher than CD quality streaming... So with Volumio you have best UI but regarding sound quality I would try picore player or Moode... Just FYI, MoodeAudio (now in version 4.3) supports direct stream from Tidal or Qobuz through upmpdcli and without the need to pay an extra 3€ monthly subscription. The "UI" for Tidal or Qobuz will be the one of the controller app you are going to chose (eg Linn Kazoo or Lumin App). You will use Moode UI directly for accessing your library, maybe through the album view ...or the pre-configured web radios (you may add yours) or maybe to pause/play or move to next/previous playlist item or change volume from the playback "cover view" These are all just examples... maybe have a look at moodeaudio.org for a better desc of all features asdf1000 1 Link to comment
franz159 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 On 11/27/2018 at 10:31 PM, beerandmusic said: Most, if not all, would disagree with spdif...it reportedly has more jitter...it may be better if you have "noise issues" but my understanding is that it is not the ideal transmission method provided everything else is ok. I may try volumio anyway, because i like the idea of web interface!! plus it will also install on x86 hardware. I will see if i experience any issues with native DSD on x86 and volumio. You might have a look at these measurements for Allo DigiOne Signature https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-measurements-of-allo-digione-signature-and-diyinhk-pro3z.4660/ I'm not sure how it compares directly to other devices, but in my understanding, it shows that jitter is definitely not an issue on the Spdif output of this device Link to comment
franz159 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 On 11/17/2018 at 7:05 PM, beerandmusic said: ack, forget rune-audio...i just read last release was 2015...must have had a short life...but it did look promising? The web interface looks a lot like volumio...maybe they sold it to volumio, or joint effort with volumio? The interface resembles it too closely for it not to have a relationship between the two. I am sure volumio is still being developed as the pro-ject streamer was just recently made available for sale, and it is using volumio. Just for info, Volumio and Rune Audio derived from the same project (a group of people initially working together and they choosing different paths), Moode also derived from this work, as can b seen from Moode own contributors page (see Original Code): Contributions to moOde audio player User Interface @swizzle: moOde Adaptive UI and many other contribshttp://moodeaudio.org/forum/ Feature and Technical Walker Boyd, Brendan Pike: MPD/PHP configs for improved Library capacitydiyAudio moOde thread Steve Bennett: UPnP configurationdiyAudio moOde thread @Serverbaboon Ralf Braun: UPnP album art and metadata parsingdiyAudio moOde thread Bob Daggg: Clock radio and Playback history logdiyAudio moOde thread @DRONE7 Alan Finnie: Logarithmic volume control (pre-MPD 0.20 series)moOde Twitter Feed Dr. Panagiotis Karavitis: Playback panel with integrated PlaylistPart-Time Audiophile - Contributors Kent Reed: Numerous contributions to improve moOde and overall usabilitydiyAudio moOde thread @TheOldPresbyope Klaus Schulz: Numerous contributions for improved audio qualitysoundcheck's - audio@vise @lazybat: Inspiration for Album Panel, Chinese utf8 character filterhttps://github.com/moode-player/moode @jesset: arm64 detection and reportinghttps://github.com/moode-player/moode Mike Thornbury, Gordon Garrity: Access Point (AP) modediyAudio moOde thread @Zootalaws (Mike)http://iqaudio.com (Gordon) Sources and Configs Jean-Francois Dockes: upexplorer utilityhttp://www.lesbonscomptes.com/upmpdcli Andreas Goetz: Moode3 Prototype, Coverart module, Airplay metadata engine and many other code improvementshttps://github.com/moodeaudio Rusty Hodge: founder of Soma FM, Soma APIhttp://somafm.com Yvon Landriault: Graphic Equalizer featureSelect from a variety of preset curves Clive Messer and Martin Sperl: Experimental Advanced Audio Kernel (4.4.y-simple branch)https://github.com/moodeaudio/linux Klaus Schulz: Adv Kernel builds, RT/LL audio tunings, Squeezelite, Bluetooth and many UI improvementssoundcheck's - audio@vise @Koda59: Moode OS Image BuilderdiyAudio Moode thread Richard Parslow: System config settings for keyboard and layout codesdiyAudio Moode thread Core Components Raspberry Pi by Eben Upton, Rob Mullins, Jack Lang, Alan Mycroft, David Braben, and Pete Lomashttps://www.raspberrypi.org/about Raspbian by Mike Thompson (mpthompson), Peter Green (plugwash) and the entire Raspberry Pi communityhttps://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianAbout Debian Linux created by Ian Murdock in 1993http://www.debian.org Auto-Shuffle by Josh Kunzhttps://github.com/Joshkunz/ashuffle BlueZ Bluetooth protocol stack by Johan Hedberghttp://www.bluez.org BlueZ ALSA backend by Arkadiusz Bokowyhttps://github.com/Arkq/bluez-alsa Bootstrap by @mdo and @fathttp://twitter.github.io/bootstrap Bootstrap-select by caseyjholhttp://silviomoreto.github.io/bootstrap-select Eq10X2 Graphic Equalizer by Tim Goetzehttp://quitte.de/dsp/caps.html#EqFA4p EqFA4p Parametric Equalizer by Tim Goetzehttp://quitte.de/dsp/caps.html#Eq10 Crossfeed by Boris Mikhaylovhttp://bs2b.sourceforge.net Dnsmasq by Simon Kellyhttp://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/doc.html Flat UI by Designmodohttp://designmodo.github.io/Flat-UI Font Awesome by Dave Gandyhttp://fontawesome.io Hostapd by Jouni Malinenhttp://http://w1.fi/hostapd/ jQuery Adaptive Backgrounds by Brian Gonzalezhttps://github.com/briangonzalez/jquery.adaptive-backgrounds.js jQuery Countdown by Keith Woodhttp://keith-wood.name/countdown.html jQuery Knob by Anthony Terrienhttps://github.com/aterrien/jQuery-Knob jQuery Lazy Load by Mike Tuupolahttp://www.appelsiini.net/projects/lazyload jQuery MD5 by Sebastian Tschanhttp://pajhome.org.uk/crypt/md5https://blueimp.net jQuery Pines Notify (pnotify) by Hunter Perrinhttps://github.com/sciactive/pnotify jQuery scrollTo by Ariel Fleslerhttp://flesler.blogspot.it/2007/10/jqueryscrollto.html jQuery TouchSwipe by Matt Brysonhttp://www.github.com/mattbryson Lato-Fonts by Åukasz Dziedzichttp://www.latofonts.com/lato-free-fonts MiniDLNA by Justin Maggardhttps://github.com/azatoth/minidlna MPD by Max Kellermann and Warren Dukeshttp://www.musicpd.org MPD Audio Scrobbler by Henrik Friedrichsenhttps://github.com/hrkfdn/mpdas PHP by the PHP Teamhttp://php.net Qix color-convert by Heather Arthur and Josh Junonhttps://github.com/Qix-/color-convert Shairport-sync by Mike Bradyhttps://github.com/mikebrady/shairport-sync Shellinabox by Markus Gutschke, fork by Luka Krajgerhttps://github.com/shellinabox/shellinabox SQLite v3 by the SQLite Teamhttp://www.sqlite.org Squeezelite by Adrian Smith and Ralph Irvinghttps://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite Udisks-glue by Fernando Tarlá Cardoso Lemoshttps://github.com/fernandotcl/udisks-glue Upmpdcli by Jean-Francois Dockeshttp://www.lesbonscomptes.com/upmpdcli/ WiringPi GPIO access library by Gordon Hendersonhttp://wiringpi.com Original Code Andrea Coiutti: WebUI design, HTML/CSS/JS coding Simone De Gregori: PHP/MPD/JS coding and OS optimizationshttp://runeaudio.com Michelangelo Guarise: RaspyFi/Volumio enhancements, OS image build - One and a half year of work more than Raspyfi's WebUI made by ACX and Orion - Work has been performed by me, Jotak and other Volumio community membershttp://volumio.org Joel Takvorian (jotak? Library Loader and Panel v1volumio forum post Jan Sandred (jansandred? Radio Station PLS Files (original set)volumio forum post szczemirek 1 Link to comment
franz159 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 On 11/28/2018 at 1:51 PM, Cebolla said: The OP didn't mention audio formats, resolutions, etc - so for up tp 24-bit/96kHz LPCM, the $30 (optical audio cable extra) Google Chromecast Audio deserves a mention. The Logitech Media Server software can provide the CCA with the required web browser controller user interface, as well its audio sources (including from internet radio & online services such as Qobuz, TIDAL, Spotify & Deezer), via the Chromecast bridge LMS plugin & relevant online music service LMS plugin(s). The Chromecast bridge plugin can even overcome the CCA's issue of lack of gapless playback support, if you engage the plugin's transcoder with the Flow option set to provide a continuous lossless FLAC stream. ...and LMS is running where? To my understanding, you should factor in the price of another SBC for that (say a raspberry or the like) Link to comment
franz159 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 21 hours ago, Cebolla said: The upmpdcli TIDAL & Qobuz access works perfectly with Linn Kazoo. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for the Lumin app - the upmdpcli's 'direct stream' / Openhome Streaming Services (for TIDAL & Qobuz access) feature needs to be switched off, otherwise the Lumin app cannot see upmdpcli (& therefore any devce that uses it, such as MoodeAudio) for some reason yet to established by its developer. So you cannot use the Lumin app's normal TIDAL & Qobuz screen views with upmpdcli and are restricted to the more cumbersome upmpdcli's (indirect) online services media server feature. BTW, did you factor in the potential cost of the hand held device, for running apps like Lumin, that the OP clearly wasn't happy using anyway? ☺️ Touché ??? Link to comment
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