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On 9/13/2018 at 4:54 AM, PeterSt said:

 

Hey @copy_of_a, although it will be a massive untertaking to sort there all out from Tidal, meaning : I won't just be buying these all from these links, I like to massively thank you for this probably massive amount of work you already put into this by putting it all up. And if you had the links saved in a document already, well, I still must thank you for it.

I listened to a few by means of the "play" button which comes along with many and they all seem to be the thing. This can also be seen from the style indications like these :

 

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See in the left hand pane.

This readily shows the difficulty I / we have with describing what this all is or can be about.

 

A perhaps difficult question : What is actually the "scene" you are from or in which allows you to have all these references to about everything I never heard of ? I guess you can mention any type of category like a country you're in, an underground something, a general source, or ... name it. The pages you link to already speak, I'd say.

 

Thanks a lot !

Peter

 

you‘re welcome!

 

Actually, no … I listen to a wide range of music.

Classical music, pop, rock (from singer songwriter to industrial), electronic (including techno). Also some Jazz.

 

Since the late 80th I was a big fan of „Art Rock“ - for instance the later works of Talk Talk, Talking Heads, also King Crimson.

And especially Japan and the following solo works of Japans Singer (and Songwriter) David Sylvian. I also followed the solo works and collaborations of the rest of the Japan-Band - Steve Jansen, Richard Barbieri (plays Keybords with Porcupine Tree you‘ve listed in your initial post for some reason), Mick Karn. Well... and since I often am interested in who collaborates with whom over the years my library evolved in different directions (it‘s still pretty small, though). Of course there‘s much more than only these few roots.

Apart from the actual music genre I am often interested in what you could call ‚avantgarde‘ and/or ‚experimental‘ and certainly „minimal art“. However, such terms mostly fall short in many ways of course.

 

2 milestones in the field you are interested in for me personally:

 

Rain Tree Crow (1991 / 2003 Remaster - the remaster is great!):

https://www.allmusic.com/album/rain-tree-crow-mw0000263355

https://www.qobuz.com/de-de/album/rain-tree-crow-rain-tree-crow/5099945721250

 

David Sylvian & Holger Czukay (1989 / 2018 Remaster):

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/david-sylvian-holger-czukay-plight-and-premonition-flux-and-mutability/

https://www.groenland.com/artist/david-sylvian-holger-czukay/

https://www.qobuz.com/de-de/album/plight-premonition-flux-mutability-david-sylvian-holger-czukay/dv3vmk651qw1b

 

Something you certainly also should look into:

https://www.highresaudio.com/en/album/view/854c2r/tale-of-us-endless-remixes

(I like the remixes much more than the original ‚endless’ album)

 

... and more towards Techno (still „ambient“) if you are interested:

 

Kangding Ray:

https://bleep.com/release/1027-kangding-ray-automne-fold

https://bleep.com/release/30332-kangding-ray-or

https://bleep.com/release/49402-kangding-ray-solens-arc

https://bleep.com/release/79574-kangding-ray-hyper-opal-mantis

 

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7 hours ago, PeterSt said:

A bit of feedback about this : Nah, I am sorry. This will be some kind of ambient all right, but it is not music to my ears. It is sounds only. Putting a beat under it doesn't make it music. Also, adding a computer generated beat without recognizable source doesn't make it a remix (I listened to the original first).

For me it doesn't matter whether music is made of real instruments or sampled real instruments or composed by sheer synthetic sounds. Often the latter add textures (and emotions) real instruments can hardly ever create.

I agree, however, that the album is actually quite trivial. Maybe even cheesy. Nothing is particularly original and while it works as a coherent urban soundscape it's not innovative at all. The Remixes add some new dimensions (suspense, energy, harshness, 3D-ness) that may make the whole thing a bit more interessting.

 

7 hours ago, PeterSt said:

But I tried ! 9_9

brave man :D

 

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4 hours ago, PeterSt said:

@copy_of_a, Did you ever try Asura ?

Under the name Asura I’ve found 3 artists.
1.) Ryan York, a DJ from LA, 2.) Vincent Villuis on Ultimae Records and 3.) a strange Hard Rock Band.
I assume you are referring to the second artist (Vincent Villuis).
Well, that sounds a bit like the soundtracks to mystical fantasy movies and therefore is not really my cup of tea.
But shortly looking at Ultimae Records I’ve came across an artist from (drum roll…) the Netherlands (yeah ? ) who seems to be interesting (for both of us): Martin Nonstatic (Martin Van Rossum).
https://www.qobuz.com/de-de/album/granite-martin-nonstatic/vlhbddx0fwcwa#item
https://www.qobuz.com/de-de/album/ligand-martin-nonstatic/3760180502486#item

 

4 hours ago, PeterSt said:

For tonight I prepared a few Bernocchi (sounds very interesting in advance) and the David Sylvian you linked to.

cool, have fun!

 

 

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6 hours ago, lasker98 said:

Lulu Rouge (...): "Runaway Boy"

(...)

Buda is a DJ and producer and has worked with names like Bliss

Great track! Clearly targeted at the club scene, however intelligently produced and really compelling. Just bought the album ...

I love the Bliss Album "No One Built This Moment" (seems to be unavailable meanwhile).

Many thanks!

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6 hours ago, PeterSt said:

Grooves and throws "the sounds" at ya.

Peter... may I ask (?) ...

I have to admit I don't really understand what you are up to regarding SQ tests with such music.

I'd say such music sounds very good on almost any system. Even on my little desktop system.

Complex layered music with A LOT of different things going on with different instruments that almost all tend to push in the foreground (like Porcupine Tree or Nine Inch Nails for instance) are much more critical since a lot of frequencies "fight" for presence in the mix. In Electronic Music very often everthing has it's place since it's based on less complex instruments/sounds.

Anyway... I do enjoy the exchange about different artists in this field very much!

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