SACD Ripping using an Oppo or Pioneer? Yes, it's true!

[Gregavi]

Hi, I have been following this thread for several months and I am finally ready to jump in and start ripping my SACDs. My first step is to purchase one of the players that are capable of the ripping process. My question is: how do I know if the player has the original firmware? From what I have read here and other forums, the player cannot have had a firmware update in order for the process to work. Is this true and how do I know before purchasing the player if it has updated firmware?

Also, is anybody converting the iso or DSF files to FLAC? That is my plan unless there's a reason not to.

 

Thanks in advance.

[Gregavi]

Thanks greynolds. 

 

I'm leaning toward the Pioneer Elite BDP-80FD which can be purchased for about $250. That's about the least expensive player on the list that I have found.

[Gregavi]

Thanks Mook and emthered. The one I am looking at is brand new. I haven't see that unit used on ebay or anywhere else. It's good to know that there are parts available in something does go wrong with it though.

 

Cheers!

[Gregavi]

Hi sevenfeet and welcome. I  may have a solution for you. PM me and I will give you details.

Cheers! 

[Gregavi]

 

2 hours ago, haggis999 said:

 

When I ripped my CD and SACD collection, which is predominantly classical, I failed to find online sources of the correct cover art for a noticeable number of the discs. My solution was take digital photos of the actual covers and then generate reduced size copies (from memory, I think I went for 800 x 800 pixels).

 

I find it hard to believe that you can't find cover art  for every disc that you have. I have some pretty out of mainstream discs that I have had no problem finding cover art for. You must have some really obscure stuff. Where are you buying these discs that you are unable to  find cover art for?

[Gregavi]

4 hours ago, Kal Rubinson said:

I find that hard to believe.  I have never had to scan/photograph a CD/SACD for cover art (including the Solti Ring in its various editions) although, admittedly, some did take more effort than others.

 

I've found that a fairly unreliable resource.  Basically, I just Google for the recording and find links to cover art or just search Google's Images option.

Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself. I never rely on a program (dbpoweramp, itunes etc) to do my searching for cover art.

[Gregavi]

2 minutes ago, Gregavi said:

 

Easy enough to use search engine.

[Gregavi]

Hi guys, I've received my Pioneer BDP-80FD, and attempted to rip my first SACD, and unfortunately have hit a snag.  Here's what I've done.

 

1) Set up Pioneer player, turned off autoplay and resume.

2) Connected to WiFi

3) created usb with Autoscript folder with the 3 files in it.

4) Drawer opens after powercycling the player, and inserting usb stick

5) run windows sacd_extract from the .cmd file script, modifying the network address to be what is assigned to the player; confirmed address via my router, and also the network information in the player to be correct.

6) Fails with the windows error: "sacd_extract.exe has stopped working"

 

Any help appreciated!

Thanks in advance.

 

Btw, I"ve also tried to run the mac version of sacd_extract, which also fails, with "libsacdread: Can't open 192.168.1.43:2002 for reading.

 

Here is the windows command in the .cmd file:

sacd_extract -i 192.168.1.43:2002 -P -I

 

 

 

 

[Gregavi]

Officially ripping my first SACD (America) with a big assist going to Mook. Once you get the proper files, it's a piece of cake. Thanks to all who contribute to this thread. 

[Gregavi]

Just curious. Is it possible to rip the SACDs in DSD file format as opposed to ISO? The reason I ask is because I'm planning on buying a Fiio X3 which claims to play DSD natively.

[Gregavi]

Thanks synfreak, I used sonore as you suggested to make dsf files and then Foobar 2000 to add tag info to the dsf files. Foobar finds tag info via freedb but when I open one of the  dsf files in a tag editor, there is no tag info. 

How are you adding tag info to the dsf file, or are you tagging the file before converting the iso file?

 

BTW, with the sonore I am choosing Sony DSF as the Output Mode and not checking the "Convert DST to DSD". Is this the right or wrong setting(s)?

[Gregavi]

6 hours ago, wrxified said:

Major kudos to everyone involved in putting this thread together and Sonore for creating ISO2DSD.

 

I'm sure media providers cringe at the thought of this software being available but I will say the moment I found this process and realized it could be used with my Oppo 103, my SACD collection shot up from 3 albums to 21 albums in 2 weeks.  All of a sudden I get all the glorious benefits of these wonderful albums with the convenience and technology of my FLAC collection.  And I can actually benefit even more with my A&K Kann and it's DSD capabilities.  

 

So awesome.

Maybe that's one of the reasons the SACD format pretty much died. Once people stopped spinning discs and ripping their CDs, the SACD format got less desirable. Maybe the format would have survived if they didn't copy guard them like regular CDs so people could rip them. Did that strategy backfire? Maybe.

[Gregavi]

I had a similar problem and the solution was to copy the correct files onto my thumb drive. Once I found the correct ones, it was smooth sailing. Because this process has evolved over time and with many different types of disk players, the files that are being used are different. My 2 cents.

[Gregavi]

I know you are not being cynical because I went through the same frustration you did. The correct files depends on what player you are using. I found a guy here on this thread that was using the same blu ray player that I am (Pioneer BDP-80FD) and he gave me the page # from this thread that pointed me to the correct files. What player do you have?

[Gregavi]

On 2/26/2018 at 11:52 PM, captainbrent said:

 this method cannot be used for ripping Bluray Audio's, only SACD's!

True, but there is a way of ripping Blu-Ray Audio (or video). I do it all the time.

[Gregavi]

Spike44 Said:

Now that I have successfully created dsf files, I still need a recommendation which device is the best to stream these files

from my NAS (prefered gapless).

Would the Marantz NP8006 be suitable?

 

If you convert the DSF files into multi channel FLAC (which is easy to do with FOOBAR), your choices increase significantly. Personally, I use a Popcorn Hour and a Mede8er and both work perfectly. Both are significantly cheaper than the Marantz.

[Gregavi]

Hi guys,

Is the an unofficial list of ALL the players that have been verified to work using this method for ripping SACDs? I thought there was one somewhere within this thread but haven't been able to find it. Thanks in advance.

[Gregavi]

On 7/19/2018 at 6:33 AM, MikeyFresh said:

 

Great post, I'd add the following bits as potentially useful and accurate to the best of my knowledge:

 

S390 was sold in some markets as the BX39

 

S590 was sold in some markets as the BX59

 

S5100 was sold in some markets as the BX510

 

*Pioneer LX58/88 was reported to have the correct MediaTek chip, however no ripping successes were actually noted if memory serves. Possibly moot unless one lives in Japan, as I don't think those models were widely sold elsewhere.

 

 

This is a good start but obviously not a complete list of verified players that are capable of using the method described in this thread to rip SACDs. I know there is a partial list early in the thread that I was unable to find. I'll look again and maybe create a list of said players.