Maybe spending stupid amounts of money on power cords isn't entirely harmless

[wgscott]

I think any study where there is a range as wide as that which is quoted is faulty to begin with.

 

I haven't read it, but the range could be based on something as innocent as how a medical error is defined (eg: honest misdiagnosis vs. failing to read the medical charts).

 

During the time I was in medical school (1985), they told me the average resident kills two patients.

[wgscott]

His opinion piece is classic left wing propaganda..

 

This junior-high debate tactic of yours detracts from your argument and undermines it. The question at issue is not a political one, and even if it happens to be informed by a conservative or liberal or "left wing" perspective, so what? You use terms like "liberal" and "left wing" as terms of dismissal. You falsely label people like me, and then, once dehumanized, go into your attack mode, sometimes to an extent that appears psychotic.

 

Do yourself (and us) a favor and apply your considerable analysis skills in a more objective and dispassionate manner. You may find you are more likely to persuade people to your viewpoint (and as an added benefit, might find you get banned from fewer internet sites).

 

When I see you deploy labels in an attempt to dismiss a viewpoint you oppose, I stop reading. From what I can tell, "left wing" to you means anyone you happen to disagree with.

[wgscott]

Why do you believe, especially you who is so critical of manipulating truth as it applies to data, so against calling out manipulations, which in the case of what I am referring to is almost strictly related to the left to make a point, in order to institute more regulations and therefore control. I have no problem calling out the other side, when it occurs and there is plenty to go around.

 

I have not read the WSJ report yet (link?), so I have no idea whether I will wind up agreeing with you or not. Lawyers have the expression "When the law is not on your side, stick to the facts. When the facts are not on your side, stick to the law. When neither the facts nor the law are on your side, you resort to denouncing your opponent."

[wgscott]

But if the confidence interval around any measurement is +/-2 db with phone-based systems, remembering that this includes repeatability as well as accuracy, a true difference of less than 2 will not be identified consistently and accurately - those 10 points may be off by as much as 4 db from each other from measurement to measurement on the same phone or among 10 different phones. And a difference of 3 or more doesn't require measuring to detect - all but the seriously hearing impaired would hear it.

 

Two separate considerations are accuracy and precision. The true value might be 6 db, but if the detector consistently measures between 3.9 and 4.1, for example, the precision is much better than 2b. So differences will have an error of approx. ±0.4 db, even if the absolute value of the measurement is off by more.

[wgscott]

about which this thread concerns itself.

 

Even though it took to page 46 to get back to this.

[wgscott]

Even if you could bring six absolutely error-free SPL meters into the demonstration, this won't prove much if anything.

 

Playing amateur detective never works well.

 

A much simpler and open approach might be to bring your own CD, and have a skeptical user control the audio system.

 

Then you test whether audible differences in power cords persist.

[wgscott]

No what's funny is my being foolish enough to waste a few minutes seeing how to measure the Nordost demo. And put these details more than a thousand posts deep in a thread where probably no one will see it. Then having someone act as if whether anyone uses that info matters in such a meandering ridiculous thread.

 

Google "Priaptor" if you want to see how well he behaves elsewhere on the internet.

[wgscott]

Well, that shouldn't keep any of your stuff from being available. Besides, you just love to hear yourself type. Why would you want to deprive any of us the chance to see even more examples of your extremely well-formulated and devastatingly incisive opinions?

[wgscott]

I can't go there if you don't go. I am incapable of understanding anything in the world unless I have you to affix your labels all over everything that tell others what and how to think.

[wgscott]

I can bring the pup too. She gets motion sickness and barfs all over everything.

[wgscott]

Does it ever resolve? All my other Goldens have loved car rides, even for thousands of miles. This one is about to heave by the time we get to the end of the driveway. There are no other obvious problems, her ears are clear, etc.

[wgscott]

Hey, I finally figured out how to shut him up: Ask for medical advice!

[wgscott]

I am not going to jump down your throat. I get it. Life is too short. Be my guest and let everyone enjoy in the manner they want, whether it be a medical specialist, lawyer, etc.

 

Commie hippy cat-lover.

[wgscott]

I have a cat allergy that hopefully will keep my priorities intact.

[wgscott]

Way too much audio talk in the thread recently. I have a question since I am learning a lot about the US:

 

Why are there so many junkies and beggars in big cities in the US? Every corner of the street, under many bridges and on many on- and off-ramps for the highways as well as at many traffic lights? This in addition to the large shanty towns.

 

Because since the mid-70s, there has been a bipartisan effort to turn the place into a third-world country, with economic disparity resembling places like Brazil. So while some people buy expensive power cord jewelry, many others are picking through dumpsters to find food to feed their families, since the manufacturing jobs have all been decimated.

[wgscott]

and the almost identical in policy Republican party.

[wgscott]

The funny thing is that the two parties are so similar with respect to most economic policies, you start to see situations where the Republican candidate is outflanking the (presumed) Democratic candidate on the left.

[wgscott]

the country by the way that Bernie and crew will no longer use as a shining exampling of socialism done "right"

 

Like Sweden?

[wgscott]

At least now you are using quotes.

 

If I was a socialist (which I am not), I would argue that comparing the United States to a wealthy European country would make more sense than to compare it with a third-world country that has been economically embargoed by the region (and the world's) superpower.

 

So why do "you people" always choose the most extreme examples to make your point?

 

Wouldn't the argument work better if you said something like "even in Sweden, one of the wealthiest European countries, socialism has done X" than if you said "even in Nicaragua, which is one of the poorest countries in the hemisphere ..."?

[wgscott]

His opinions have a basis?

[wgscott]

The issue is it that it is an absurd comparison to compare America to Nordic countries

 

whereas, it is completely reasonable to compare [the United States of] America to Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, etc. In short, only ideologically serviceable opinions count.

[wgscott]

The point is Socialism doesn't work. ... You claim you are not a socialist but sure go out of you way to defend it.

 

Another logic fail. Just because I point out the fatal flaws in your armature-hour argument doesn't even mean I disagree with your conclusions. (However, in this case I do, in the sense that Capitalism doesn't work, either.)

[wgscott]

Well, I live at 1700 ft, and have to climb to 2000 ft to get home, so I do use it for that (as well as going downhill).  My bars are about level with the saddle, and I ride much more upright than I ever thought I would at age 25, so there is that.

 

I tried it on a mountain bike and hated it.

 

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