groovybassist Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I'm in the NOS camp as well (Mojo Audio Mystique). Link to comment
groovybassist Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I'm not familiar with all AD chips, but the 1865N-K used in my DAC is an R2R ladder chip. Link to comment
groovybassist Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 +1 on R-2R NOS DACs I'm using the Mojo Audio Mystique v2.0 and it just sounds like music. Doesn't matter whether I'm streaming internet radio or Redbook from NAS. I don't spend any time wondering about this or that - too busy tapping my foot and enjoying the music. Link to comment
groovybassist Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Can someone explain what an "aliasing artifact" actually sounds like during playback? I've heard all the intellectual arguments on both sides, but have found I personally feel a deeper connection to the music and the artists' intent when listening to NOS DACs. I simply want to listen more and longer. I typically don't have that same response to DACs that perform various types of processing, up/oversampling or filtration. This isn't a statement about every DAC, simply what I'm willing to put my hard earned money behind. FWIW, my DAC uses the AD1865N-K chip. buonassi 1 Link to comment
groovybassist Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 This is interesting as my personal experience with NOS DACs is that they are quieter and have more natural detail than OS DACs, which sounds like the opposite of what you're describing. I find non-NOS (if that makes sense) as having forced detail, while sacrificing the flow of music. buonassi 1 Link to comment
groovybassist Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I've owned three NOS DACs - the Red Wine Audio Bellina, Mojo Audio Mystique v1.0 and now the Mojo Audio Mystique v2.0, which is definitely the best DAC I've owned. I've had a few others in the past - a couple of ESS Sabre based and one Burr Brown. I agree implementation is a very big determinant of sound quality, but for some reason, NOS DACs help me relax into the music - others, not so much. Wish I could try 'em all, but that's not so easy these days. Link to comment
groovybassist Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Intellectually interesting, but I'm not sure how the converters listed relate to the actual conversion happening in a given DAC, and still don't have a good feel for audibility or audible cues. Link to comment
groovybassist Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I'm very happy with my NOS DAC and feel no need to up my specs. Just trying to understand audibility of aliasing and why folks that are negative on NOS DACs are always trotting aliasing out like it's some obvious distortion we unwitting NOS supporters aren't hearing. My interest in listening to music and the length of my listening are both greater when listening NOS - guess that says it all. Link to comment
groovybassist Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Perception is a funny thing. I can point to a number of OS DACs I think sound worse than NOS. Of course, OS DAC proponents will say the current measurements support their position. The fact we have people on both sides of this argument indicates we don't yet fully understand the signal/ear/brain interface well enough. Link to comment
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