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  1. On 4/12/2019 at 1:25 PM, Kimo said:

    I used to own an INT 30A, but upgraded.  One of the few amps I actually miss.  It really had a wonderful sound that I haven't quite heard in the newer stuff.

     Probably it was not sufficiently resolving? Last few years, whether it is electronics or speakers, the trend is in the resolution. Because the musicality and liquidity must not suffer, the prices shoot up and up

  2. On 3/26/2019 at 9:49 PM, Kimo said:

    I have the Linnenberg Wydor in the house and am running it with LInnenberg Telemann DAC/Preamp.  This accounts for my "integrated" solution.  


    Not sure how much break in is needed, but I would characterize the sound this way.  Much like a clearer, more extended version of Pass Labs Class A offerings, the combo offers amazing depth compared with most other amps that I have had in the listening room.  The high SNR results in more subtle ques being more obvious, but not thrown out of proportion. 


    Bass is a strong suit as well.  I never noticed this much texture on "Dreams."  Cymbals are extended, but so far never really harsh.  This of course may be due to the sound of the RAAL tweeter, at least in part.


    The Linnenberg sound can be summed up as detailed, clean, deep, and colorful, with strong bass and extended highs.  


    Well worth the wait.


    Have you considered T+A 3100HV ? Many say it beats everything out there

  3. Regarding Accuphase, I stumbled upon http://www.japanhifi.com

    Pretty good pricing and they are legit. Seeing those prices of Accuphase, e.g. E-480 in $7000s, E-470 in $6000s, E-650 in $8000s etc, does that change any perception on the discussion so far? In terms of bang for the back, of course. The main reason for exclusion of Accuphase was the problem with NA pricing, approx. 2 time the price of JapanHIFI. The only thing is that they provide step-down transformer for 110v/100v (free of charge), but that is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things

  4. On 4/11/2019 at 7:51 PM, sfseay said:

    That is the first time I have heard the 585 as sounding dark.  I guess you haven’t heard it or you wouldn’t say that.  I own a 585 and it is far from dark sounding.  Nobody would pay over $10,000.00 for a dark sounding integrated.  Very neutral sounding integrated.  


    It sounds so good I’m selling my beloved Pass Labs INT-30A.


    Nobody wants to pay more than $4700 for it on used markets now that 585.5 hit the market

  5. On 4/12/2019 at 2:14 PM, Ajax said:

    Hi Kimo,


    I’m wondering what you don’t like about Devialet gear.


    My Devialet 200 is my favourite piece of equipment for both sound quality and features - internal DAC, Pre/Power Amps, active crossover with both frequency and time delay, upgradeable firmware, streamer, flexible inputs...


    We all like what we like so not challenging your decision just interested in your reasoning.



    There has been a recent slash in pricing across Devialet line. Fore example, a brand new factory sealed 440 Expert Pro CI was sold for $10500cad by a dealer in British Columbia. As a result, people stay away from the brand. Imagine buying it and tomorrow the MSRP is only 50% of what it was until yesterday.

  6. On 6/11/2018 at 9:16 AM, a.dent said:

    My thoughts are

    Vitus RI-101

    Gryphon Diablo

    Accuphase E-470


    All will drive most speakers to serious (ear damaging) volumes. I have Magico S5s.


    DAC and phono stage can be installed in Accuphase. DAC only in the Danish integrateds.


    I recently sold my Vitus to upgrade to Accuphase separates but the E-470 integrated is close to (or better than) the Vitus. 


    Can you elaborate more on Vitus vs Accuphase class AB? E.g. Vitus RI-101 vs E-480?

  7. On 3/30/2019 at 7:19 AM, Kimo said:

    Thank you for the insights of digital amplification.  I actually made my choice, which was quite traditional.  Would be hard pressed to get this performance out of most integrateds.  




    I really didn't want an amp with a built in DAC.  My box count is the same, using a DAC with a built in volume control.  The no preamp guys got to me.  This is my last amp, I suspect.


    6moons preferred linnenberg liszt to widor stating that Widor may only be mandated when having 2ohm difficult speakers.

  8. On 3/30/2019 at 7:19 AM, Kimo said:

    Thank you for the insights of digital amplification.  I actually made my choice, which was quite traditional.  Would be hard pressed to get this performance out of most integrateds.  




    I really didn't want an amp with a built in DAC.  My box count is the same, using a DAC with a built in volume control.  The no preamp guys got to me.  This is my last amp, I suspect.



    did you compare with Devialet Expert Pro line?

  9. 7 hours ago, skatbelt said:


    My case has nothing to do with added distortion. The crux is the reconstruction of the analog signal. Top notch DAC's perform this task better than the Lyngdorf amplifiers.


    As soon as you converted analog to digital, you distorted it (distortion #1). Then you converted digital to analog and introduced another distortion (distortion #2). Yest it sounded good (just like that Cayin $400 amp with 10% distortion). Distortions are good sounding, that's what you are saying, and I hear ya I am with you on that one.

  10. On 4/6/2018 at 1:25 PM, skatbelt said:


    I understand that it is difficult for you to digest. I pointed other Lyngdorf owners in this direction and in most cases their first reaction was the same as yours. But after they explored this contra intuitive path they were thankful. You have a very nice source with the Sonore Signature Rendu SE. It deserves a very good DAC.


    When I first heard Cayin (I didn't know the brand) on 



    I couldn't believe how good it sounded. I thought it was 1000 and 1000s of dollars, maybe even more than $10000. Then I googled and found out it is one very cheap amplifier. As such, it has 3 or 4% THD etc. But the damn things sounds so good. Just like Brodmann speakers (which also have huge distortion, but sound extremely good). I believe this is the effect you achieved with your a/d d/a a/d d/a experiments. Btw, it is very rare to get 40+ positives on YT on a system, especially a system with such a low price

  11. 10 minutes ago, MASantos said:



    I'm sorry but no, what mostly made the deal for me was the roomperfectsoftware and the very good sound coming from the speakers. Since these other amps you mention don't offer acoustic dsp I didn't even consider them. I heard a lot of sistems in a recent audio show some of them costing 10x as much and I preferred the lyngdorf.


    Micromega m-one 150 has M.A.R.S room correction included (comes together with 150, an option with m-one 100)

  12. On 3/23/2018 at 10:18 AM, MASantos said:

    I sent an email to lyngdorf regarding tidal integration and they replied that it is only available via Roon. Direct tidal support won't happen.


    Quite a shame to have to spend another 500 to have tidal. An option would be to stream it via dnla and a tablet but it's not as elegant as direct support.


    That's quite a turn-off. Naim Nova offers native Tidal (but its HDMI is buggy), but less power

  13. On 3/26/2017 at 1:36 PM, gadawg58 said:

    Not sure why anyone thinks this needs to be "settled"? In my system the Berkeley device made a huge difference mostly I'm guessing because of a poor usb implementation by ARC. If the USB implementation had been really good maybe the differences would not be as noticeable but I feel no need to have my opinions validated by anyone much less a panel of experts. I think the market has "settled" this in fact because there are several companies that make a similar device and people are buying them otherwise they wouldn't be made. Mileage will vary by setup so the only thing that sounds reasonable to me is that we each evaluate the need for such a device on our own and of course share our experiences so others can at least be exposed to the options.



    When I am paying 1000s of dollars, yes, I want to settle things. I want to find out the real truth. The same thing as in experimental vs theoretical physics. We need experiments, we need blind tests!

  14. On 3/26/2017 at 2:16 PM, romaz said:


    What's to resolve?  This isn't a contest and those who suggest it is are misguided.  This has nothing to do with which format is more inherently flawed than the other but rather how one manufacturer has perhaps addressed such flaws to provide a product that sounds good in your system.  To have a panel of experts do blind testing won't conclude anything since these things, as always, are system and listener dependent.  There are very few absolutes in audio, only personal preference and those that march to the beat of another drummer are doomed to the personal preferences of that drummer.


    I will reiterate the last sentence of my post:  "I would suggest you use your ears to decide what sounds best in your system."  By all means, don't let any panel of experts tell you what sounds best.

    If what is at stake is, for example, a Starbucks coffee (smallest one) I would agree. But what we have here at stake are 1000s and 1000s of dollars. Almost a down payment for a house! Thus we better have some blind tests, sooner the better. So, if we have 20 experts in the same room, same everything, but two tests: one with USB, and the other XYZ. And ~ half of experts say that USB is better (and/or they thought in their mind it was USB, but actually it was XYZ, and vice versa), and the other half says XYZ is better (i.e. two questions for each listener: 1. which one was better and 2. what was it, USB or XYZ), then we would have the real truth. That would help us to determine what we should buy, objectively

  15. On 3/25/2017 at 3:11 AM, romaz said:

    I think this is very much DAC and server dependent.  


    With my Chord DAVE, it incorporates a floating USB design with excellent galvanic isolation.  Its SPDIF BNC and AES inputs, on the other hand, are not.  DAVE's USB is synchronously tied to its clock whereas SPDIF and AES go through DPLL.


    I had a RedNet 3 in house for testing for nearly 4 weeks and pitted against my best USB source at the time, a stock SOtM sMS-200 powered by my Paul Hynes SR7, USB sounded considerably better.  With my new sMS-200 Ultra, the gap has widened further.  


    I have also compared straight USB against a variety of USB-to-SPDIF converters including the Berkeley Alpha USB as well as a modified Audiophilleo 1 powered by an LPS-1 and USB still sounded better with my DAC.  Not that SPDIF or AES sounded poorly, only that USB was noticeably better.


    Regarding servers, some sound better via AES or SPDIF while some sound better via USB.  John Mingo of Baetis will tell you AES is king and USB is crap.  Mark Jenkins of Antipodes, however, will tell you the opposite with his servers.  Obviously, it has more to do with the quality of the implementation than the actual format because inherently, they both have flaws that have to be overcome.


    Regarding AOIP, yes, this is legit and has some advantages over "straight USB."  Since Ethernet incorporates an error-correcting protocol, you are assured a bit-perfect stream and because it is transformer-coupled, it inherently incorporates some degree of galvanic isolation but with proper care and attention, USB can be made to sound just as good.  People seem to also assume that AOIP means only "ethernet in" and "SPDIF or AES out" (i.e. RedNet) when devices like the microRendu and sMS-200 are just as much AOIP devices and can sound just as good if not better in some systems.  


    Bottom line, USB is not always bad and is sometimes superior.  I would suggest you use your ears to decide what sounds best in your system. 

    I believe that impartial blind tests with a bunch of experts would be the only way to resolve this once for all. The last expert discussion re blind tests was in Stereophile I believe in 2005. If one carefully reads it, he will see that with blind tests all assertions become relative. And JA found an expert way to get out these (unpleasant) discussions. And more than a decade after that still nobody is trying to do blind tests, the only feasible way to find out the real truth. Without blind tests, everything is futile (and costly!)

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