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  1. AGREE--- 5+ years ago, i swore by hi-res over dlna was "THE ANSWER" as i could hear it sounded much better than 44.1khz via usb, but i think dac engineering have finally progressed to where the 44.1k upsampled by the dac with proper isolation and reclocking is sufficient in itself.....
  2. out of curiosity, how do you play this jurrassic park ii soundtrack? from youtube like the ny scene you shared?
  3. I just looked at your system details and it says gungnir mb unison...i thought you said you used a mojo, or am i mixing you up with someone else?
  4. I use it because i have it in various formats including DSD (it even has a 44.1K on youtube), and it is EXTREMELY easy to pick out.. I like comparing both 44.1K from youtube, playing a wav file from accurate rip, and DSD, and comparing across any solution. It makes it very easy where i have had difficulty in past doing a/b comparisons....plus the fact i love the song, makes it easy too (grin). If you listen to the right channel there is a very light instrument that can be heard at different degrees of vividness or even non-existent depending on how you are playing it and what hardware you
  5. I don't think parasound makes a multi-channel av with multi-eq that supports streaming dsd and alexa (smile)...but i do own a parasound 2250...best bang for the buck for what it does (used can be found for a dance). I don't think there is a better all-around product than the marantz sr6013 or current top model in same line, and you can always use it as a front end to your amp of choice.... as for amps, used pass labs thresholds are probably closest to mcintosh for my enjoyment that can be found at reasonable cost.
  6. I really wouldn't expect someone that can afford wilsons to use marantz stuff, but it can be a great preamp for audyssee eq and alexa compatibility....i don't know if it would degrade a levinson amp or whatever you use for your amps (probably), but it sounds great driving a mcintosh amp for fronts (smile)...it also works great for multi-channel home video (smile).... btw, the sony s790 if i recall correctly could also be used as a "quiet" usb thumb drive player to play native dsd files....sounded great....a bargain and that was about 8 years ago....can be found today for $60 or so.
  7. BDP S-790 Another thing that is nice about using the marantz sr6013 as a preamp is that it supports alexa/heos (smile) I don't think there is anything more convenient...sure, i like my critical listening moments, but my wife likes that she can just say alexa, play chet baker on den, and it will turn on the amp, and start streaming from amazon prime. Or you can tell it to play from your own playlists and use your own music. but the one we fight over most is alexa turn up or turn down volume on den. And it's so nice to just say "next song" or turn off den.
  8. I don't have it anymore...I got rid of it when i found the marantz sr6013 is equal in dsd dlna. I will search the threads from 5 years ago or so and see if i can find it. It was a BDP something and was llike $100 used....but my marantz sr6013 streams dsd just fine now so i use it instead....i also like using a marantz as a preamp for purpose of audyssee and just have used different amps to drive my fronts...i will find the model and let you know....
  9. I don't know if it is equal to other solutions or not..i just know my test track that i have used....it's a lot better, but whether it is the end-all or not, i cannot say.
  10. I am not a dac engineer, but Schiit thinks he has something with his unison, and it is the first thing I have heard that compares to my experience streaming dsd via dlna. What he markets is complete electro mechanical galvanic isolation, removing and using his own 5v ref, and reclocking. I reported this on another thread at another site, and someone made the remark that all good dacs should do that and they believe that schiit is just catching up to other more highend dacs....I don't know if that is true or not, but it is the first time i have experienced what I am expe
  11. This is what i always test for. The track by Chet Baker "ALONE" is the "PERFECT" test track. Depending on different solutions I have tried, there is a very light instrument in the right speaker, that is either clear, extremely faint, or non-existent. I finally hear it vividly now using unison out my every day windows PC that has been absent in past, that i could always hear when streaming or via a usb thumbdrive.
  12. there is more than one way to skin a cat, and that thread is NOT for me (not knocking it, i am just not an audio DIY'er). I was streaming DSD via DLNA via a cheapo SONY bluray player long before that thread or popularity of usb toys or music via enet existed...and I swore by it, when everyone else told me i was crazy. I believe that modern day dacs have worked on usb deficiencies while everyone in that thread has found other solutions to the usb problems. I believe a noisy usb can cause problems down the chain, but i don't believe it can corrupt the digital
  13. Ok, if i accept that, even though i believe i saw a posting at one time that actually recorded jitter inserted into a signal and it sounded like hiss, but i suppose different kinds of jitter can cause different things. Let's assume it causes distortion in the audible range that actually makes music lose detail. (I have heard loss of detail and actually have a test track that i do critical listening for it, and have heard different degrees of loss detail). But it is still my contention that a well designed dac should compensate for this....and to be honest, i do believe
  14. none of that speaks to what the actual sound difference is, that jitter by noise causes...i vaguely remember (but i may be wrong), that someone (archimago maybe?) that shared what "jitter" sounds like, and if i recall it was like hiss. If i hear ticks or hiss, then i would be concerned, but I do not. my point is that i believe that "modern day dacs" should compensate for any noise on usb line, and my current belief is that they do. Provided they have what "unsion" has or better which includes, use their own 5v reference, isolating the usb's 5v reference, galvanic isolation, and reclocking.
  15. Funny...very similar to me. Using jriver 26 (no special settings though)...i always got better results plugging usb stick into SR6013 (i have used many other usb stick methods in past as well (sony bluray players, marantz cd players) and almost always sounded as good or better than any dac including a gungnir multibit and many dsd flavored dacs. The unison sounds very good...i think best dac i have had yet, even though it is only a bifrost mb....i think the bifrost mb w/unison may sound better than the gungnir w/gen5, but dont have both to a/b. I do think this unison is a worthwhile upg
  16. OK, I have found that I can actually hear "MORE MUSIC" using a schiit mb with unison. It may not be a fair test as the only other usb dac i have currently is a dragonfly (i have probably had 15 different dacs over time and usually a few different ones at the same time, but i sold them all off awhile back ago)...anyway, my only comparison now is the dragonfly and i actually can hear a LOT more music from the schiit with unison..... I don't know if it is due to noise isolation, reclocking or what, but I can hear more music. Anyway, i think i can be "content" with usi
  17. Ok i read it through. There really wasn't any mention that i noticed that spoke to how the noisy usb affects the music....if it affects the music bits accuracy, or if the noise interferes with dacs circuitry. It also didn't mention what dac he used or if it had galvanic isolation or reclocking circuitry...so my questions remain the same. The part of the page that most rang my bell to what i am speaking is: MARCE>>Again though, one would have thought that the DAC input should have filtering on the supply if it is designed to be USB powered. It is sti
  18. Here is another sample track i use for critical listening. I have it in both .wav and dsd256. THere is an "extremely faint" musical instrument in the right speaker, that used to not be so apparent with an old dac. Today, i can hear it both with a schiit mb w/unison and in the dsd file played from a thumbdrive as well as dsd via dlna but not from a dragonfly...my thinking is that I will read it now, but again, i do not doubt there are incredible differences measured regarding noise...but do they mention difference in SQ and what hardware they are using to listen for di
  19. without reading through a 73 page thread, it seems that it basically states that some usb's are noisier than others. I do not disregard that. not arguing one is noisier than the other, that is a "GIVEN"...question is, how does that noise affect the play, and have recent generation of dacs been designed to address this issue... (e.g. unison, isolating 5v reference and reclocking internally without a toy). I stated probably 3+ years ago, that I believed that usb toys should not be needed, that the dac design should be sufficient in itself to address anything t
  20. audio engineering cannot be that difficult... you are sending A) 5v reference voltage B) digital music (does everybody agree or NOT, that the receiving dac gets this data accurately) C) noise In the past, everyone that spoke up would say that the digital music received is so accurate that it may drop one bit every 24hrs or something along those lines. My thinking, is that if the dac does indeed recieve it's data with near perfect accuracy, and you isolate the 5v reference voltage and "reclock" the "perfect bits" with your own engineering circu
  21. LETS START HERE::: I want to know in this chain::: regular use windows pc playing a 44.1K wav file using a Schiit unison mb dac will sound the same as specialized windows pc wiht LPS playing same 44.1k wav file using same player and same dac Most people i believe will say no, the one with quieter power supply will sound better. I want to understand the logic behind that? Do people agree the bits are received the same? That it is just the noisy pc that causes a problem? If the dac recieves the bits with 100% accuracy, and the uniso
  22. To clarify I was quoting articles by IFI and Gordon Rankin, and everybody (at least everybody that spoke up), found exception to my statement that audio transmission is not bit perfect....so i accepted the consensus...and now it appears that there are people that may actually believe what I was trying to say 2 years ago....well we will see where it goes from here.
  23. I also used to believe that higher sampling rate meant more resolution, but what i read recently is that you don't hear more music because of more sampling times, it's just that upsampling pushes distortion (due to dac's reconstruction filters) above the audible spectrum....but that you don't need dsd rates to do that. Most all recordings are at 44.1K and that covers the entire audible spectrum. Given: a) 44.1K covers our audible hearing b) most recordings are at 44.1K or 48K My current understanding is that 96K should be more than sufficient, and why would w
  24. ^^^ I will bring the old topic back to life and see if there is still a consensus.... IMHO, the only thing that is logical to me is that noise does indeed cause corruption of data and therefore distortion as far as why a LPS on a unix fanless computer would sound better than a general purpose windows machine? Again, i am not on either side of "any camp"...i just want to understand the logic and reasoning. From 2 years ago, I thought most everyone agreed the bits were "nearly" always perfect and if they weren't you would hear dropouts.
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