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  1. what is main stream studio recording done at these days? Do you know? I am not talking about the 2 or 3 DSD recording studios that i have heard of....I am talking about the vast majority of mainstream recording studios? And is there a list of actual high resolution recordings somewhere? Also some may be recorded at 96k and then upsampled to dsd? I Would like to know two things... 1. if there is a list somewhere of high res recordings and what they are actually recorded at 2. What does mainstream studio recordings that do the mass recordings use these days?
  2. again, might not argue that point, but that is different topic.
  3. this processing power is for "upsampling", which is a totally different subject, which i have my own debate about different than this one.
  4. I would not argue that...but that could/should be a function of the dac. If the dac can get the bits accurately, the design of the dac should be able to take that "perfection" up to the conversion circuitry...especially when you have a dac that does it's "own" regneration... this should not be rocket science...and perhaps we are already there, but just subjective opinions are creating their own market.
  5. comparing good or bad gas would be more like comparing one song to another, and besides doesn't make sense to compare usb to a fuel pump. usb always transmits the bits accurately, even if there is noise on the line....if you can get the bits perfectly, a good design should be able to compensate for any noise.
  6. I just want to know how you know which recordings were actually recorded in hi-res...most stuff is just upsampled 44.1K... I still want to know if "most" music being "recorded today" is still using cd rate sampling recording? Does anyone know what the studios use today? I know there are a few that record in dsd, but i am talking main stream recording
  7. To some degree, I believe this...although i believe 44.1K isn't quite optimal for all individuals...but very close, and "close enough" for practical purposes, but not in the world of "audiophilia" (which what this hobby is all about)....but I do believe that hi-res does take it up a notch....i just don't think the money is worth trying to squeeze 1%...but that is sacrilegious in this hobby. (imho just buy atc speakers a good amp and be done with it)..
  8. The reason i ask about the "original recording", i still have trouble understanding why upsampling would make the analog signal any more accurate? They may be able to "color" the analog signal where it may be more "pleasing" (subjective), but they can't make it more accurate. Example ....just for discussion purposes... If the original recording sampled live music 10 times per second, then you can't get any more accurate music than that. If you upsampled to 20 times per second, the data that was put in those extra 10 positions is just a "guess" at what music was th
  9. most people that have tried, would argue take if you took the same dac you suggest off of an enet solution like optical rendu or sotm that it would be better....inre cdt, it's just not practical for conveniency anymore....why couldn't schiit do a sd or ssd transport? Then it would be interesting...jmo While you are here though, i have a question regarding the unison usb.... with the unison usb, does it isolate well enough where it doesnt matter how noisy the pc is? And why would it make a difference what computer (e.g. you mention some uhq server?) if you use a unison usb if
  10. Also, CDs are limited to 44.1K...although many will suggest that encompasses our hearing, yet many flat files exist much higher, where a CD medium won't cut it. I am not going to argue with Mike...he knows what he knows and that is his profession, and he makes the best music he can with his knowledge. PS, i have hinted at DSD before and he has no interest in pursuing flagship dsd dacs. He has experience already with both CD transports and PCM dacs which is where he excels and is understandable. He is probably getting older and doesn't want to diversify from what he kn
  11. Are most new recordings these days still using cd rate recording bitrates or are new recordings typically higher now? How do we know which hi-res tracks were made from hi-res recordings and which are just upsampled?
  12. none will have a chord or shiit dac embeded..I can show you more cd players. would be nice to have a shelf system with a sd or ssd player with sonics of streamers at a low price (smile)....just me, but i have no desire for the inconvenience of a cd player even though i stil have over 600 cd's after selling off twice as many...i am with lemitche in that regard...i will never go back to cd as my media of choice.
  13. Would a dac designer design a device that doesn't require a DAC? The concept is great for a transport that uses an external dac, but the conveniency of a cd player will never catch.... Engineers need to figure out the timing why a transport could sound better than a flat file....do it with a sd card or ssd drive then you would have something.
  14. Also keep in mind liking the sound better does not always equate to accuracy and there may be some emotion and perception involved as well.
  15. Do you agree that the only thing that is sent from the usb to the dac is: a) digital music (most everyone agrees that this digital data is received accurately) b) reference voltage c) noise
  16. and it will fit on a cd? How much of it do you actually listen to? I am sure you can fit the mass majority of what you listen to regularly on a single sd card. I rarely ever plug in a cd anymore unless it is to rip it.
  17. Remember the only thing going to the dac is digital data which is recieved correctly, the reference voltage and "noise". The purpose of these "gadgets" is to isolate the noise, provide a "cleaner reference voltage" and the digital data. The dac already receives the data accurately, so the only thing remaining is the reference voltage and the noise. A well designed dac "should" be able to resolve for those 2 nuissances without the need do daisy chain additional power supplies and noise isolation. Dac designs continue to improve with this knowlege, and with current ge
  18. In my thinking it should be possible with a well designed dac that supports DSD, but even if we take out high resolution and dsd and just consider 192K PCM, a well designed dac should could care less about the input, noise, etc...it should be able to compensate for all of those things, especially since the end product includes the analog conversion and "wave shaping". The "color" may be different based on the dac, but the input should not carry any weight if the dac is designed properly. Whether we are at that stage and generation of DACS now is yet to be decided, but i do believ
  19. so you disagree, so there is no reason to discuss this topic further with you... we need to have an initial agreement before we can discuss or look further.... The music is stored as a "flat" file on a storage device, can we start there? If not then there is no purpose in going on further... (I am not trying to compare one file to another...that is not my purpose). My purpose is to discuss the logical reason why engineering cannot seem to get one flat music file to the input of the d->a conversion without compromise without the need to daisy chain gadgets and a
  20. why? sd card may not be as easy for noise or other reasons, but certainly would be a much more useful product than a cd player in terms of quantity and convenience.
  21. Also the more usb toys, the more chance of introducing noise and needing additional "perfect" power supplies. The objective is to get the bits perfectly to the dac (which people agree happens), and then to isolate noise. A well designed DAC should be able to do that. It has the perfect bits, so it is just a matter of introducing the perfect bits for processing and isolating the noise. Edit --- i thought we were in the thread i created about usb isolation...not realizing this is the thread about macs....disregard.
  22. The power is just another aspect of noise. For purpose of this conversation, lets just deal with 2 parameters, data and noise, and the data is received without error...so all we are trying to resolve for is "noise".
  23. You may not be able to make a bad source good but let's think about what we are saying. A bad source can be a bad recording, but that is not what i am speaking about. Let's start with the bits on the media are perfect as proven by checksum. Exiting the source, you have the perfect bits and call it noise. Assuming music = perfect bits + noise and nothing else. We know the dac gets the perfect bits. The dac conversion of course will be different based on the dac engineering, but right now, all we are trying to deal with is the input.
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