NWDave Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Greetings. Having set up my AirportExpress to play through an old set of powered computer speakers, I'm enjoying the convenience. Now I want to upgrade to some nicer sound. Here's what I'm looking for: 1. Price $500 or under. 2. Active speakers (I own no amp, receiver, or other power source). 3. Clarity, detail, and brightness at low volume is essential. Everything else is secondary. The cheap computer speakers ($60) I'm currently using have more volume than I can handle in a 12' x 20' room. Am leaning toward Audioengine A5+. Also have seen good notes here about the KRK and other studio monitor options. My only concern there is whether they would work at the distance I'll be listening (8-9 feet from the speakers on a couch). Ideas welcome. :-) Link to comment
wrcwill Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Have you taken a look at the monitors M-Audio offer? The BX5's and BX8's deliver great sound, and even if they are neutral they are also very pleasing to listen to. Denon DT1560/Dacmagic -> Nad S100 > Nad S200 > B&W Nautilus 804 Link to comment
bikemig Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 You might want to check out the Kanto Yaro speakers, http://www.kantospeakers.com/products/yaro. It's a clever twist on the powered speaker idea since it adds a small control unit that has digital inputs. The apple express sounds better using a digital than an analog connection. Macmini (as server)-> AE Express/SB Touch-> Dacmagic plus -> Outlaw RR2150 -> PSB Image T6 (dedicated 2 channel audio system) Macmini (via toslink)-> NAD T747 -> PSB Imagine B/SVS SB2000 subwoofer (home theater) Macbook Pro-> Peachtree idecco->PSB Imagine Minis, Energy ESW-M8 subwoofer, Beyerdynamic DT880 (home office) IMac->audioengine D1 dac->airmotiv 4 (work system) Link to comment
NWDave Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 Since posting my original question, I've decided I'll probably go for a basic NAD amp and a pair of PSB Alpha B1s (or Imagine Minis) instead. I'll run AirPlay through my MicroDAC and into the amp. Should work just fine. Link to comment
hionhifi Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 My vote is for the Audioengine 5+. Audioengines speakers are made by audiophiles for audiophiles with computers. Thomas Turner SPEAKERS - Snell Type C/V | PREAMP/DAC - Project Pre Box S2 Digital | SOURCE - Auralic Aries Mini | ROOM TREATMENT - LEDE, bass traps @ Rear of room, acoustic panels @ 1st reflections point: side walls | AMPLIFIER - Acurus A100 Link to comment
JeffH Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Emotiva just released some powered monitors. http://emotivapro.com/ I heard them back in September at Emofest and they sounded pretty good. Jeff Main system: MPaD -> Fanless VortexBox -> Emotiva XDA-1 -> Adcom GFA-555II -> Working on the restDesktop System: J.River Media Jukebox -> WIN7 -> HRT Music Streamer II -> Virtue Audio One.2 -> DIY Martello speakers Link to comment
wgscott Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Audioengine also has a new wireless HD DAC... Link to comment
david.parker83 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 dac in the mail yesterday and burning in. It is the non-wireless version Audioengine makes. Very excited to see what it can do. :-) Link to comment
NWDave Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 I will give those a look. Link to comment
NWDave Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 like I thought I was. Still thinking. Here's my last reservation with the Audioengines (indeed, with any powered, versus active, speaker). I don't understand how the sound isn't affected by having one speaker heavier and full of equipment (the one with the amp) versus the other one which is lighter and, among other things, operating at a lower temperature. Doesn't this affect sound compared to a passive set-up? Link to comment
firedog Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Emotiva just put out a new line of powered monitors. "The Audiophiliac" column called one of the models (the $399 pair) the best speaker of it's type he's heard at that price: http://www.head-fi.org/t/589057/emotiva-pro-airmotiv4-loudspeakers-review I don't think 8-9 feet for these type of speakers in a small room will be a problem. Main listening (small home office): Main setup: Surge protector +>Isol-8 Mini sub Axis Power Strip/Isolation>QuietPC Low Noise Server>Roon (Audiolense DRC)>Stack Audio Link II>Kii Control>Kii Three (on their own electric circuit) >GIK Room Treatments. Secondary Path: Server with Audiolense RC>RPi4 or analog>Cayin iDAC6 MKII (tube mode) (XLR)>Kii Three . Bedroom: SBTouch to Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Setup. Living Room/Kitchen: Ropieee (RPi3b+ with touchscreen) + Schiit Modi3E to a pair of Morel Hogtalare. All absolute statements about audio are false Link to comment
david.parker83 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 but not to a level that bothered the Stereophile reviewer who looked at the A2. He commented on how he also expected them to image poorly. I love my A5+, but speaker placement (especially toe-in and distance between speakers being at least 6 feet) is critical. I also found it necessary to do some sidewall reflection dampening as well as putting a blanket on my television during extended listening. Link to comment
NWDave Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 I really like what I'm seeing with the Airmotiv line, but I'm wondering about the lack of heatsinks on the 4 and 5 models (the 6 has one). Wasn't overheating the reason the new Audioengine A5+ has a heatsink? Or is there some compensatory design feature with the Airmotivs 4 and 5 that take care of heating without them? Link to comment
NWDave Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 Six feet is a bit wide for the space I'm looking at. Also, there's a diagonally aligned 42" TV that already bounces the heck out of my tiny computer speakers I'm current using in the space. Not sure if the spouse will allow the tinkering necessary for optimal A5+ placement based on your experience. :-) Link to comment
wgscott Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 I love this idea, even in the absence of any reflection problem. Link to comment
david.parker83 Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Yeah I mean they were ok at 4 feet, but then the listening position got really awkward for my living room. The 6 feet thing is in the little booklet that ships with them, they basically say something like "these speakers are very forgiving with positioning but we recommend placing them at least 6 feet apart for the best imaging." 4 feet might be just fine for you though. wgscott, convince my wife that I'm not crazy with the blanket, please! :-) Link to comment
wgscott Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Although I cannot assess the overall state of your husband's mental health, the simple act of placing a blanket over your television set is not, in and of itself, an act of insanity (unless it is one of those blankets that has been previously immersed in a vat of small pox virus). In fact, it could be viewed as an act of mental health preservation. In addition, it might significantly raise his IQ. In the event that he turns the sound on to your audio system, it may also have a side benefit of reducing or eliminating undesired sonic reflections, thus providing a better stereo image. Yours faithfully, His fellow inmate Link to comment
NWDave Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 They're an odd little speaker, I must admit. Not sure what I expected. So far, they're the reverse (to my ears) of the plurality consensus on the web; they're much, much brighter and detailed than I expected, while the bass is very tight and focused at low to moderate listening levels. Not boomy at all. As someone else mentioned in this thread (or perhaps another one on the AE5+), they scale with the source remarkably well. They don't make an MP3 sound like crap (although you *will* know it's an MP3) while also taking whatever crispness a well-recorded Lossless recording will give them. They love vocal and acoustic music. I'll continue to listen. My hearing is sensitive and definitely couldn't take anything brighter than the treble produced on these. However, there could be issues with the DAC I'm using, too (an older model HeadRoom MicroDAC) or perhaps I need to wait for the full break-in period. I don't know. Thanks to everyone again for all the help. I'll continue to evaluate and if anyone has questions about them I can answer, please, don't hesitate to ask. I'll try my best to respond. David Link to comment
artemino80 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I would also suggest giving a look at the monitors M-Audio offer. There you could find interesting offers when it comes to wireless outdoor speakers under $500. Link to comment
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