Kal Rubinson Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 22 minutes ago, Russell_L said: A new release from PentaTone (I got the DSD64 download from ProStudioMasters). Easily the most exciting Missa Solemnis I've heard in years! Hmm. On first try, it was disappointingly limp. I will try it again. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 I love this one: semente 1 Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 50 minutes ago, firedog said: +1 My favorite till now is the Bernstein/VPO, but this one may be better. Sonics are great. Same here. I am downloading the Vanska now. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 3 hours ago, AnotherSpin said: I guess I wrote about this recording couple of month ago here. Just to repeat - this was the most involving Tch.' 6th I heard in ages. I thought it mannered and willful with limited dynamic range. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 5 hours ago, AnotherSpin said: Which versions of 6th you would recommend? Thank you. The classic versions by Mravinsky and Markevitch. Most recently, Honeck. 4 hours ago, Musicophile said: One thing you have to give to Currentzis, he never leaves people indifferent. It's typically love or hate. I will grant you that. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, AnotherSpin said: The sound, the approach, everything is vastly different. I thought the sound is pretty poor. Poor balances, limited dynamic range, lack of soundstage depth, some harsh-sounding brass and a few extraneous non-musical sounds. What is that noise that begins the last movement? Mayfair 1 Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, rodrigaj said: But I do wonder why Haydn is disliked by so many astute music lovers. Really? Not in my experience. Perhaps among audiophiles. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 13 hours ago, Musicophile said: There even was one editorial in Gramophone some years ago where one of the editors had to defend Haydn as so many music lovers called Haydn boring: Sure but I wonder how skewed that observation (which I have not yet read) is. Record magazine readers are only a part of the larger consort of music lovers. My induction to Haydn was back in college under the tutelage of Otto Luening. We covered a lot and my love for the symphonies, quartets and masses has never flagged. Recent historically-aware performances have only enhanced it. 37 minutes ago, austinpop said: My absolute favorite work by Haydn is Die Schöpfung (The Creation). Any nonsense about boring and inept are swept away by the grandeur and beauty of this piece. D'accord! Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, WAM said: My favorite Mahler 5: Who is it? Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, austinpop said: Qobuz has it at 24/44.1, although I gather it was also released as an SACD, so may be available as DSD too. I have not seen it available as a DSD download (although I have ripped the SACD). It is certainly one of the better modern performances. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Popular Post Kal Rubinson Posted August 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2018 50 minutes ago, austinpop said: Thank you Kal. There is no dearth of good performances of this piece, thankfully. Regarding the SACD, I just ordered one to Oppo-rip. Good. I have 5 in multichannel/DSF and 3 in stereo. None is a dog but you should hear Gottlob Frick and Elisabeth Grummer in this one: Sample him here: Guidof and austinpop 1 1 Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 12 hours ago, AnotherSpin said: Just finished listening, not sure will return anytime soon. Me. too. 12 hours ago, AnotherSpin said: Yes, the sound recording is remarkable, it is kind of Currentzis trade mark, well known from previous recordings. I disagree. Yes, it is remarkably clear but that is due to excessive highlighting and gain manipulation as in his previous recordings. 12 hours ago, AnotherSpin said: ..................here I hear rather nice still unassured adolescent level attempt. Agreed. He plays individual sections and phrases for maximum effect but without without making any effective connection among them. It's what he does. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 FWIW, check the dynamic range measurements of Currentzis' T6 and M6 (is there a pattern?) against the competition and it is apparent that they are highly compressed like the worst of pop recordings. AnotherSpin 1 Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, crenca said: What were the numbers? As someone who thinks there is too much dynamic range in many classical recordings (i.e. more than a typical live performance) I welcome a bit of trending in this direction, but of course would not want it to move all the way to "the worst of pop recordings"... In a discussion about the T6, NeilS posted: "I wonder if some of the "strange balances" you mention on this recording (e.g., overemphasis of subsidiary lines and a foreshortened soundstage) are attributable to the relatively narrow dynamic range of the majority of the movements on this recording (According to JRMC analyses: MVT 1:DR 8; MVT 2: DR 13; MVT 3: DR 7; MVT 4: DR 8). All of the other recordings I have encountered of this symphony present significantly wider dynamic ranges. For example, JRiver analyses the respective DR of the four movements as follows: conducted by Mravinsky (DR 10; DR 12; DR 10; DR 10), Monteux (DR 12; DR 12; DR 14; DR 14), Gergiev (DR 14; DR 14; DR 13; DR 16) or Toscanini (1942) (DR 15; DR 13; DR 14; DR 14)." (Read more at https://www.stereophile.com/content/devastating-tchaikovsky-sixth#S57Xo2vHyCspwUMj.99) In a quick check, Currentzis' M6 recording is 13, 14, 13, 14 for the four movements. Compare those numbers those of Bernstein/NYPO (19, 19,18, 20), Eschenbach (17, 16, 16, 22), Jansons/RCO (16, 16, 15, 22) and Gergiev/LSO (16, 15, 16, 19). So, while it is a step up from the T6 recording but Mahler is more demanding and Currentzis is still consistently behind the others in this random sample. and it sounds that way. crenca 1 Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 16 minutes ago, pdvm said: I just can't believe it's 2018 and classical recordings (still? again?) get maimed in this way.... This is not universal (small U). There are many excellent classical recordings being made today and even the average one is better than these. The Audio Note connection says a lot to me. ? Has anyone any experience with his non-Sony releases? Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 26 minutes ago, pdvm said: THANK YOU. All reviews I've read mention the 'stellar' recording quality / 'demonstration class' etcetera. Does nobody hears the heavy compression? There was an extended discussion on the T6 at the Stereophile site. https://www.stereophile.com/content/devastating-tchaikovsky-sixth Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 21 minutes ago, pdvm said: I know. I hear new, great sounding recordings all the time. Most of them are recordings of mediocre performances unfortunately. So when somebody comes along and does things genuinely different or with the utmost attention to detail (like Currentzis), it's sad to have to write him off because of an unlistenable recording. I mean, I much rather listen to Barbirolli's Mahler 6 where you can hear the microphone distortion at the loudest climaxes, then hear this mess, where every time it gets exciting the engineer yanks the volume down while you can hear there's no distortion and you know there's ample dynamic range to capture the full impact of the passage. Agreed. Among the dozen or two M^s in my collection, my go-to is still Bernstein/VPO even though the sound is hard and hollow and I have many with vastly better sound. Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 hour ago, WAM said: From the godfathers of electronic music: rando 1 Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 ....and another version of the other Requiem: Musicophile 1 Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, rando said: The entire set is underappreciated. rando 1 Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 16 hours ago, rando said: Sometimes you spend a few hours outside in fresh snow and come home to do out a couple budget re-releases that remind you why you picked up this hobby. That a bunch of no-name musicians born without a pretty face or treacherous parents that shoved them above the pack or works by an unknown composer are worth investigating. This is a pretty well-served repertoire. What do these do? Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Popular Post Kal Rubinson Posted March 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Musicophile said: Inspired by this: My latest favorite Four Seasons recording: 24/192 from Qobuz (but Channel Classics & NativeDSD has it in up to DSD256 if you want to max it out). And spectacular in vivid multichannel, as well. Hugo9000, jhwalker and Musicophile 2 1 Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Popular Post Kal Rubinson Posted June 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2019 34 minutes ago, rando said: "Using this new method we come upon a concept of reproduction In which the signal gets better with every stage of the process it goes through, whereas in a conventional system, each stage causes it to get [however slightly] worse. SONAS can therefore effectively treat even existing recordings, and intensify their spatial and psychological effects." Really? I mean, really. rando, crenca, sphinxsix and 1 other 1 3 Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Kal Rubinson Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, sphinxsix said: This is obviously kitschy but could e.g. Beethoven's 9th Finale be performed by an orchestra and rappers instead of a choir in an interesting, creative way and if so would you guys be ready to applaud such a performance? Unlikely but possible. firedog 1 Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
Popular Post Kal Rubinson Posted December 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, bobfa said: Thank you I will go listen to as much as I can find. It is sort of like me picking different "versions" of Pictures at and Exhibition. So many variants! There's a big difference. The Mahler 4 comes in one version with one variant: The original with full orchestra and a "chamber" orchestra version that is relatively rare. Pictures, otoh, comes in the original piano version and many orchestral arrangements of which the Ravel is, by far, the most common/popular. In addition, there are transcriptions for many different instruments and ensembles. I have nice ones for band and another for an ensemble of french horns! Hugo9000, semente and Musicophile 2 1 Kal Rubinson Senior Contributing Editor, Stereophile Link to comment
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