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21 minutes ago, mr_bill said:

I wonder how many older audiophiles (I'm older) are getting to the point where they:

A.  don't want so many boxes

B. don't want to have to deal with a computer when running your system

C.  useing your phone to operate your system -  I do have an Auralic Aries 1.1 streamer but I will put up with that but don't want to have to usee my phone all the time to operate my system other than the streamer.

D.  are getting sick of integrateds or pre/power amp that have room correction, digital complicated displays

 

btw - I am ok with a remote control for source and volume!

 

I know what you mean. I am trying to simplify because my wife, got out of listening because it was TOO COMPLICATED and took out the enjoyment. I think I am starting to get there, I think....

Current:  Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM

DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC 

Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590

Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier

Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers

Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects

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42 minutes ago, botrytis said:

 

I know what you mean. I am trying to simplify because my wife, got out of listening because it was TOO COMPLICATED and took out the enjoyment. I think I am starting to get there, I think....

Same situation here - way to complicated for my wife to just listen to music, 

Something to be said for a simple system and to just play FM, Vinyl or CD - just like the old days.

Give me a simple integrated remote for volume and I'm happy.  (I won't give up my Auralic Aires streamer for Tidal and Bluetooth though, but that's enouch phone/network interface)

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1 hour ago, mr_bill said:

I wonder how many older audiophiles (I'm older) are getting to the point where they:

A.  don't want so many boxes

B. don't want to have to deal with a computer when running your system

C.  useing your phone to operate your system -  I do have an Auralic Aries 1.1 streamer but I will put up with that but don't want to have to usee my phone all the time to operate my system other than the streamer.

D.  are getting sick of integrateds or pre/power amp that have room correction, digital complicated displays

 

btw - I am ok with a remote control for source and volume!

it is strange that if my internet service is down, there is no music to listen to (at least in the main system).  Of course, ISPs only survive if the outages are very short.  On the other hand, having access to "more than 240,00 albums in Hi-Res audio quality" in Qobuz is a joy.  

Grimm Audio MU2 > Mola Mola Makua > Mola Mola Kaluga > B&W 803 D3    

Cables: Kubala-Sosna    Power management: Shunyata    Room: Vicoustics    Ethernet: Network Acoustics Muon Pro

 

“Nature is pleased with simplicity.”  Isaac Newton

"As neither the enjoyment nor the capacity of producing musical notes are faculties of the least use to man...they must be ranked among the most mysterious with which he is endowed."  Charles Darwin - The Descent of Man

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1 minute ago, mr_bill said:

Same situation here - way to complicated for my wife to just listen to music, 

Something to be said for a simple system and to just play FM, Vinyl or CD - just like the old days.

Give me a simple integrated remote for volume and I'm happy.  (I won't give up my Auralic Aires streamer for Tidal and Bluetooth though, but that's enouch phone/network interface)

 

Hence why our main system has a Hegel H-190 and using JRiver (Android pad control - all music on server). SOmetimes my wife will just play music through a google speaker in her office - just background.

Current:  Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM

DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC 

Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590

Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier

Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers

Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects

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1 minute ago, PYP said:

it is strange that if my internet service is down, there is no music to listen to (at least in the main system).  Of course, ISPs only survive if the outages are very short.  On the other hand, having access to "more than 240,00 albums in Hi-Res audio quality" in Qobuz is a joy.  

 

I OWN so much music as it is, my wife said streaming is just radio for a price (you know what she means - she is just not interested). I know that it is more, but she is a blunt IT person 😇

Current:  Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM

DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC 

Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590

Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier

Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers

Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects

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1 minute ago, botrytis said:

 

Hence why our main system has a Hegel H-190 and using JRiver (Android pad control - all music on server). SOmetimes my wife will just play music through a google speaker in her office - just background.

Simple systems are great.  It is unfortunate that Logitech no longer supports the Squeezebox Touch, which was the ideal interface.  My wife loved it.  But, fortunately, Roon has gotten easier to use and she continues to enjoy listening to music.  Once she got used to the search function (which thankfully has been improved) she can find songs and albums she likes.  

Grimm Audio MU2 > Mola Mola Makua > Mola Mola Kaluga > B&W 803 D3    

Cables: Kubala-Sosna    Power management: Shunyata    Room: Vicoustics    Ethernet: Network Acoustics Muon Pro

 

“Nature is pleased with simplicity.”  Isaac Newton

"As neither the enjoyment nor the capacity of producing musical notes are faculties of the least use to man...they must be ranked among the most mysterious with which he is endowed."  Charles Darwin - The Descent of Man

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4 minutes ago, PYP said:

Simple systems are great.  It is unfortunate that Logitech no longer supports the Squeezebox Touch, which was the ideal interface.  My wife loved it.  But, fortunately, Roon has gotten easier to use and she continues to enjoy listening to music.  Once she got used to the search function (which thankfully has been improved) she can find songs and albums she likes.  

 

My wife has tried Roon and she hates it with a passion. She has designed interface screens for computers that use specific software (LIMS software). She feels most audio software is not user friendly - I am trying. 

Current:  Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM

DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC 

Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590

Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier

Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers

Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects

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5 minutes ago, stefano_mbp said:

Just install Logitech Media Server on a pc/nas and configure your Squeezebox Touch to use it instead of MySqueezebox and it will work as before

 

Does LMS still have nightly updates?

Current:  Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM

DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC 

Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590

Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier

Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers

Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects

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9 minutes ago, stefano_mbp said:

Just install Logitech Media Server on a pc/nas and configure your Squeezebox Touch to use it instead of MySqueezebox and it will work as before

Thanks.  She mostly used it with internet radio channels.  I'm assuming the LMS solution only provides access to our library.  Is that correct?  

Grimm Audio MU2 > Mola Mola Makua > Mola Mola Kaluga > B&W 803 D3    

Cables: Kubala-Sosna    Power management: Shunyata    Room: Vicoustics    Ethernet: Network Acoustics Muon Pro

 

“Nature is pleased with simplicity.”  Isaac Newton

"As neither the enjoyment nor the capacity of producing musical notes are faculties of the least use to man...they must be ranked among the most mysterious with which he is endowed."  Charles Darwin - The Descent of Man

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25 minutes ago, botrytis said:

 

My wife has tried Roon and she hates it with a passion. She has designed interface screens for computers that use specific software (LIMS software). She feels most audio software is not user friendly - I am trying. 

it isn't surprising that an IT professional who has designed interface screens will see it very differently from those of us who are users only.  

 

And some IT folks prefer the absolute minimum on the screen.  One fellow I worked with (brilliant coder) used a font that was so small I asked him if there were fonts smaller than 8 point or if he custom-programmed it.  He would always shrug and laugh.  Then I would specify the size and placement.  When you are used to writing very efficient code, why muck up the interface with a lot of unnecessary stuff? 🙃

Grimm Audio MU2 > Mola Mola Makua > Mola Mola Kaluga > B&W 803 D3    

Cables: Kubala-Sosna    Power management: Shunyata    Room: Vicoustics    Ethernet: Network Acoustics Muon Pro

 

“Nature is pleased with simplicity.”  Isaac Newton

"As neither the enjoyment nor the capacity of producing musical notes are faculties of the least use to man...they must be ranked among the most mysterious with which he is endowed."  Charles Darwin - The Descent of Man

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13 minutes ago, PYP said:

it isn't surprising that an IT professional who has designed interface screens will see it very differently from those of us who are users only.  

 

And some IT folks prefer the absolute minimum on the screen.  One fellow I worked with (brilliant coder) used a font that was so small I asked him if there were fonts smaller than 8 point or if he custom-programmed it.  He would always shrug and laugh.  Then I would specify the size and placement.  When you are used to writing very efficient code, why muck up the interface with a lot of unnecessary stuff? 🙃

 

Well, when these systems store and are the databases for all the data science companies store on their products, including R&D and QA/QC - they also have to be auditable by the FDA and other gov't entities. When some data sets get into the TB range, such as large drug testing, etc. it needs to be understandable and easy to use. Sometimes, the scientist working from home, of course on VPNs have to pull down 20 TB's of one data set - that gets crazy.

 

In my Ph.D. work, I had one graph, in my Ph.D. research that had 34,000 data points - work done in triplicate, etc. and that was in the 1990's.

Current:  Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM

DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC 

Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590

Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier

Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers

Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects

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14 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Funny you mention this. The Axpona hotel had major internet issues for about a day and a half. Nobody could stream for several hours.

 

The only ones playing music where the physical disc people. I couldn't believe how many TT's there were at AXPONA.

 

The rooms should have known. It always happens at AXPONA. At least we didn't have a fire alarm this year.

 

Current:  Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM

DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC 

Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590

Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier

Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers

Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects

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3 hours ago, botrytis said:

I OWN so much music as it is, my wife said streaming is just radio for a price (you know what she means - she is just not interested). I know that it is more, but she is a blunt IT person 😇

 

3 hours ago, botrytis said:

My wife has tried Roon and she hates it with a passion. She has designed interface screens for computers that use specific software (LIMS software). She feels most audio software is not user friendly - I am trying. 

 

I agree with your wife on both counts! 9_9

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1 hour ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Funny you mention this. The Axpona hotel had major internet issues for about a day and a half. Nobody could stream for several hours.

wow.   dealers post about the high fees they pay for these events in addition to the prep time, transportation costs and lost time selling gear in their usual way.  They couldn't be very happy about a day and a half without internet service (or interruptions during that time).  Especially if this is one of only a very few events they use to publicize their gear.  

Grimm Audio MU2 > Mola Mola Makua > Mola Mola Kaluga > B&W 803 D3    

Cables: Kubala-Sosna    Power management: Shunyata    Room: Vicoustics    Ethernet: Network Acoustics Muon Pro

 

“Nature is pleased with simplicity.”  Isaac Newton

"As neither the enjoyment nor the capacity of producing musical notes are faculties of the least use to man...they must be ranked among the most mysterious with which he is endowed."  Charles Darwin - The Descent of Man

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5 minutes ago, PYP said:

wow.   dealers post about the high fees they pay for these events in addition to the prep time, transportation costs and lost time selling gear in their usual way.  They couldn't be very happy about a day and a half without internet service (or interruptions during that time).  Especially if this is one of only a very few events they use to publicize their gear.  

Well, honestly, people attending, sales, streaming, and hotel business all use the wireless connection. As my wife said, 'Who knew if you overload an internet connection, it would slow down and crash. Very sarcastic."

 

Hence why many rooms had TT.s and a few had CD players.

Current:  Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM

DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC 

Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590

Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier

Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers

Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects

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42 minutes ago, bobfa said:

The rooms I set up had no problems during the outage.  I provided local music playback!! 

 

When I did AudioKarma Fests, where forum members could rent rooms in a hotel so demo their systems to other forum members. So, I would bring a small wireless router (PW protected) which had an ethernet switch and a mini-PC with Daphile and Music loaded on it. I would use an old android pad for control. Just me.

Current:  Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM

DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC 

Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590

Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier

Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers

Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects

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