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On 3/14/2024 at 11:21 PM, The Computer Audiophile said:

I’m not a fan of letting stuff slide just because it has been going on for a while

 

^ This is the reason you should stay in the game and not do this:

 

On 3/14/2024 at 11:21 PM, The Computer Audiophile said:

Some days I wish I lived in a one room shack in the middle of nowhere

 

Thank you for your efforts and the platform that you help the audio community with. 

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On 3/14/2024 at 10:21 PM, The Computer Audiophile said:

Thanks for the thoughtful reply @SQFIRST

 

Yes, the venting felt good and necessary :~)
 

You’re totally right that it’s hard to evade the constant surveillance. I think if most people knew how much they were surveilled, they’d absolutely revolt. It’s just impossible for people to be experts on surveillance, unless they are experts on surveillance. 
 

I removed all tracking from this site because I think it’s terrible and I think at least some people will appreciate the freedom from it. However, if I wanted to be like other sites I could track every click, how long people looked at specific comments (not just a page full of comments, but a specific comment), what they type into the comments box but end up deleting before hitting save/publish, how they use the mouse/trackpad/screen to scroll and what specific items on each page grab their attention most, how long in milliseconds they look at each paragraph/comment, what their cursor hovers over, blah blah blah (and tie it into other databases loaded with info). You likely know all this, but most people have no clue that other sites do this and much much more. 
 

Anyone want to drive one of these cars, after reading this - https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/11/technology/carmakers-driver-tracking-insurance.html?unlocked_article_code=1.c00.5E0P.6Yhhg8zT5Vwa&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb

 

 

Bringing it back to HiFi, because it’s so easy to get sidetracked on this topic, I really hope people think about the bigger picture. It’s about much more than Tidal knowing I listen to ABBA. It’s also how this expands into huge companies knowing about the smaller companies and having data that could be very detrimental to the smaller guys. In the long run we all lose if this data is used in certain ways.
 

As you can probably tell, I’m not a fan of letting stuff slide just because it has been going on for a while. I’d like to live in my private residence without audio companies tracking my every search, scroll, click, play, pause, skip, etc… 

 

I’m all for giving people the option to enable digital surveillance, in order to receive what they believe are the benefits derived from it. Or, maybe it can be looked at another way. I’m all for a company asking me to pay more if I won’t allow them to make money off my data. 
 

Some days I wish I lived in a one room shack in the middle of nowhere in Montana. But we know how that story ends. Maybe I just need to pretend I don’t know anything about digital surveillance and tell myself it’s really not that bad :~)

 

Thanks again for the comments. 

 

 

Holy Crap, I think i'll keep the no computer and barely any assist 1992 Porsche I am driving currently after reading that article.

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4 minutes ago, One and a half said:

This is all rather disturbing, so how to fight back? What software tools are out there to:

 

- Identify the source of 'call home'

- How to block those calls

- Prevent the calls from re-occuring


For many apps, the companies are way ahead of us. The apps won’t function without calls home. 
 

I use Pi-Hole and it helps but also reveals how much our devices call home. It’s insane. 

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1 hour ago, One and a half said:

This is all rather disturbing, so how to fight back? What software tools are out there to:

 

- Identify the source of 'call home'

- How to block those calls

- Prevent the calls from re-occuring

Just think about what your upnp/dlna distributed libraries / folders may tell about your equipment, privat life and library, don't panic ...
After reading @The Computer Audiophile 's article using BubbleUPNP for network streaming just doesn't feel  anymore as easy like before.

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One of the things that a friend does, and I've started copying on a minor basis, is making fictions and nonsense about me and putting that online.

 

Does a site/product want a registration? Make up data and use that! As long as I keep a record of registrations, who's going to know that addresses, DOB, other preferences, hobbies, are fiction.

 

My friend (on one site) has a PhD in macramé, lives in Tierra del Fuego, and is 125 years old.:D

 

Running a VPN also has advantages, and many browsers now can delete tracking, etc. if those options are active.

 

Make your data not only difficult to access but fancifully inaccurate.B|

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Yeah, Chris, you are absolutely right that surveillance capitalism is a very creepy thing.  Just the other day my Alexa, out of the blue, told me it noticed that I had two items in my Amazon shopping cart that had been there for three days and asked if it could complete the order for me by receiving my verbal assented right then and there.  Yeah, real, real creepy.

 

And the other thing that gets me is this stuff is our life data, and it's being strip mined from us and sold for the profit of the strip miners without giving the original owner so much as one red cent.  Think about it.  Mark Zuckerberg is worth upwards of $50 Billion because he took yours and my private and personal data (which we may unwittingly half-consented to supply or not) and sold it to marketeers, potential employers, credit bureaus, insurance companies, law enforcement agencies, and, for all we know, Russian intelligence, so those parties could manipulate us with ads; discriminate against us in employment, credit, and health insurance decisions; track us down for legal infractions; and propagandize us around election time with special ads narrowly tailored to hit our hottest buttons. 

 

These data mining activities are anything but harmless. Very often having a large set of seeming innocuous and unrelated factoids like whether we listen to ABBA at 8am is enough for the collectors of that data to form a very complete picture of who we are and to use it for their own purposes which may or may not be in our own best interests.

 

The European Union has recognized the problem and responded with some stringent privacy regulation.  Good luck on ever seeing that happen here.

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4 hours ago, GregWormald said:

One of the things that a friend does, and I've started copying on a minor basis, is making fictions and nonsense about me and putting that online.

 

Does a site/product want a registration? Make up data and use that! As long as I keep a record of registrations, who's going to know that addresses, DOB, other preferences, hobbies, are fiction.

 

My friend (on one site) has a PhD in macramé, lives in Tierra del Fuego, and is 125 years old.:D

 

Running a VPN also has advantages, and many browsers now can delete tracking, etc. if those options are active.

 

Make your data not only difficult to access but fancifully inaccurate.B|

Good one ! I have two dates of birth the real one for govt departments, the other is the origin of Unix 1/1/1970.

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I hear you cry, but a record player won't solve the problem. Where are you going to buy the records, please not Amazon or Discogs. You can store audio files locally and play them. If you're worried about calling home, a firewall blocking outgoing traffic might prevent this.
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I worked in implementing HIPAA and GDPR.
They really do not provide that much protection. Most of time you can overcome limits by having official data management representative, load of paperwork covering your proceedings and proper contracts with partners. You must inform what and why you are collecting. You must remove data from system if requested. But, nobody reads fine print and 0.000001% of people request data to be removed.

 

Using fake identity won't help you much, too. You still can be identified by IP address, cookies, supercookies, fingerprinting. Maybe small business can't, but behemoths like Google can definitely associate data from many sources and "marketing partnership".
You can't trust what VPN provider does with info about you. Many VPN services share logs with agencies on request. Well, you really don't know, if your VPN provider is an agency's operation or isn't.
If you have to pay with credit card, then you are owned.

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12 minutes ago, maxijazz said:

I worked in implementing HIPAA and GDPR.
They really do not provide that much protection. Most of time you can overcome limits by having official data management representative, load of paperwork covering your proceedings and proper contracts with partners. You must inform what and why you are collecting. You must remove data from system if requested. But, nobody reads fine print and 0.000001% of people request data to be removed.

 

Using fake identity won't help you much, too. You still can be identified by IP address, cookies, supercookies, fingerprinting. Maybe small business can't, but behemoths like Google can definitely associate data from many sources and "marketing partnership".
You can't trust what VPN provider does with info about you. Many VPN services share logs with agencies on request. Well, you really don't know, if your VPN provider is an agency's operation or isn't.
If you have to pay with credit card, then you are owned.


I wish you were wrong, but I don’t think you are. 
 

I use Proton for a lot of things. I’m waiting for the day I find out it too isn’t what I though. 

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Data brokers admit they’re selling information on precise location, kids, and reproductive healthcare    https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2024/03/data-brokers-admit-theyre-selling-information-on-precise-location-kids-and-reproductive-healthcare?utm_source=iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=b2c_pro_oth_20240318_marchweeklynewsletter_paid_v3_1_171042419850&utm_content=Data_brokers

 

Information newly made available under California law has shed light on data broker practices, including exactly what categories of information they trade in.

 

Any business that meets the definition of data broker must register with the California Privacy Protection Agency (CPPA) annually. The CPPA defines data brokers as businesses that consumers don’t directly interact with, but that buy and sell information about consumers from and to other businesses.

 

 

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California and the EU are way ahead on this. The issue is, SCOTUS has said that there is no right to privacy in the Constitution (part of the Roe V Wade overturn - this is as political as I will get). Privacy advocates have been ringing the alarm on this, but so far falling on deaf ears.

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10 minutes ago, botrytis said:

California and the EU are way ahead on this. The issue is, SCOTUS has said that there is no right to privacy in the Constitution (part of the Roe V Wade overturn - this is as political as I will get). Privacy advocates have been ringing the alarm on this, but so far falling on deaf ears.

I don't want to get into politics, but from a practical and meaningful standpoint, the way to move this forward is starting with the harm done to minors.   Would think that is important to everyone.    

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"As neither the enjoyment nor the capacity of producing musical notes are faculties of the least use to man...they must be ranked among the most mysterious with which he is endowed."  Charles Darwin - The Descent of Man

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11 minutes ago, PYP said:

I don't want to get into politics, but from a practical and meaningful standpoint, the way to move this forward is starting with the harm done to minors.   Would think that is important to everyone.    

 

That is why I said what I did. I totally agree. Parents should also be involved with minor's use of phones, internet, etc. 

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24 minutes ago, botrytis said:

 

That is why I said what I did. I totally agree. Parents should also be involved with minor's use of phones, internet, etc. 

some parents are starting to understand that, unfortunately, they cannot post pictures of their kids online.  These photos get scraped and possibly become part of facial recognition data. Or an introduction to weirdos.  

 

Most people just don't seem to understand that they are living in a dangerous digital world and must take measures to protect themselves and their families.  It shouldn't lead to paranoia, but it should lead to intelligent vigilance.   Hopefully, that includes the so-called Tik Tok moms who promote their kids online.   

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8 minutes ago, PYP said:

some parents are starting to understand that, unfortunately, they cannot post pictures of their kids online.  These photos get scraped and possibly become part of facial recognition data. Or an introduction to weirdos.  

 

Most people just don't seem to understand that they are living in a dangerous digital world and must take measures to protect themselves and their families.  It shouldn't lead to paranoia, but it should lead to intelligent vigilance.   Hopefully, that includes the so-called Tik Tok moms who promote their kids online.   

Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean that they're not out ...

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We all need a little humor now and then.

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