semente Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Hi, Is there a Wi-Fi network gizmo that I can plug into a microRendu? I have moved and can no longer use an Ethernet wire to connect it to the switch. Cheers, Ricardo Edit: I have an entry-level Tenda mesh but it’s rubbish and makes an annoying high-pitch noise "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256) Link to comment
1 Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted August 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2022 I would do something like this - semente and ericuco 1 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
0 Blake Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Perfect timing for me as I was just researching options. I just read your article and purchased 2 of the TP Link RE650's on Amazon. They are 40% off ($90.00), which is a nice bonus as I needed two units. Thanks Chris! The Computer Audiophile 1 Speaker Room: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Pacific 2 | Viva Linea | Constellation Inspiration Stereo 1.0 | FinkTeam Kim | Revel subs Office Headphone System: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Golden Gate 3 | Viva Egoista | Abyss AB1266 Phi TC Link to comment
0 The Computer Audiophile Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 It’s crazy that the RE650 is still a current product, 5 years later. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
0 Blake Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Yeah, it is still on the TP Link website: https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/range-extender/re650/ I guess the RE650 was one of those rare products that is just perfection.. incapable of being improved 😄 Speaker Room: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Pacific 2 | Viva Linea | Constellation Inspiration Stereo 1.0 | FinkTeam Kim | Revel subs Office Headphone System: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Golden Gate 3 | Viva Egoista | Abyss AB1266 Phi TC Link to comment
0 R1200CL Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 17 hours ago, semente said: Is there a Wi-Fi network The above suggestions is nice, and will work. You may considder something that support Wi-Fi 6 standard. (If you can afford, look towards WiFi 6E). In addition I would add a switch (EtherRegen preferably) between the wireless device and the microRendu. https://www.networkworld.com/article/3258807/what-is-wi-fi-6-80211ax-and-why-do-we-need-it.html Here are some WIFi 6 from TP link. https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/range-extender/?filterby=5730 semente 1 Link to comment
0 Blake Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Setting aside cost, would it be worthwhile to get the TP Link RE605X extender over the RE650? I can just return the RE650 I purchased. My Xfinity xFi is 6E (combined modem + router in one chassis). However, I don't see any Wi-Fi 6E range extenders from TP Link, just Wi-Fi 6 (RE605X). Speaker Room: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Pacific 2 | Viva Linea | Constellation Inspiration Stereo 1.0 | FinkTeam Kim | Revel subs Office Headphone System: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Golden Gate 3 | Viva Egoista | Abyss AB1266 Phi TC Link to comment
0 R1200CL Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 33 minutes ago, Blake said: Setting aside cost, would it be worthwhile to get the TP Link RE605X extender over the RE650? You can’t expect a yes/no answer to this. Is a Porsche better than xxx ? Technically, there isn’t any doubt. However do you (personally) really benefit from it ? Only you know the answer depending on how heavily you’re loading your network, and not to mention how many neighbors you have. You all “fight” about the same WiFi channels available. You won’t get better SQ. That I’m pretty sure about. But I guess that’s not what you’re asking. Also, how many WiFi 6 capable devices do you actually have ? Link to comment
0 Blake Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 A Porsche is always better than xxx, except for off-roading, then its a modified Jeep Wrangler. I just don't see any Wi-Fi 6E range extenders, just Wi-Fi 6, so I'll just return RE650 and get the RE605X. I didn't think I'd get different sound quality, just looking for less likelihood of dropouts, and speed reliability. Speaker Room: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Pacific 2 | Viva Linea | Constellation Inspiration Stereo 1.0 | FinkTeam Kim | Revel subs Office Headphone System: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Golden Gate 3 | Viva Egoista | Abyss AB1266 Phi TC Link to comment
0 AudioDoctor Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Blake said: A Porsche is always better than xxx, except for off-roading, then its a modified Jeep Wrangler. I just don't see any Wi-Fi 6E range extenders, just Wi-Fi 6, so I'll just return RE650 and get the RE605X. I didn't think I'd get different sound quality, just looking for less likelihood of dropouts, and speed reliability. I have upgraded to Wifi 6 and in my research I found it suggested that a single device not wifi 6 capable will slow the entire wireless network down. That said, if you're streaming music the increased bandwidth of WiFi 6 will not hurt. semente 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
0 Popular Post Blake Posted August 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, AudioDoctor said: I have upgraded to Wifi 6 and in my research I found it suggested that a single device not wifi 6 capable will slow the entire wireless network down. That is good to know. So when moving to Wifi 6, make sure everything else in the ecosystem is also Wifi 6. AudioDoctor, R1200CL and semente 2 1 Speaker Room: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Pacific 2 | Viva Linea | Constellation Inspiration Stereo 1.0 | FinkTeam Kim | Revel subs Office Headphone System: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Golden Gate 3 | Viva Egoista | Abyss AB1266 Phi TC Link to comment
0 AudioDoctor Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Blake said: That is good to know. So when moving to Wifi 6, make sure everything else in the ecosystem is also Wifi 6. yeah, if possible. It depends on how your network is set up and if you have any IOT devices on it as well as which frequency they use. I think the 2.4ghz devices don't impact the wifi 6 because that isn't used by WiFi 6. It's the 5ghz devices that aren't WiFi 6 that will slow down the WiFi 6 network. I may be wrong, but that was my understanding of it. No electron left behind. Link to comment
0 botrytis Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 13 hours ago, AudioDoctor said: yeah, if possible. It depends on how your network is set up and if you have any IOT devices on it as well as which frequency they use. I think the 2.4ghz devices don't impact the wifi 6 because that isn't used by WiFi 6. It's the 5ghz devices that aren't WiFi 6 that will slow down the WiFi 6 network. I may be wrong, but that was my understanding of it. Not true. Both frequencies are used for Wi-Fi 6 as my home router is Wi-Fi 6.0 and both are used. 5.0 has a shorter range compared to 2.4. Jud 1 Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
0 audiobomber Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 The downside of a plug-in extender like the RE650 is that the power supply can't be easily upgraded. For highest fidelity, an extender is connected to the audio system via LAN cable should have the wi-fi broadcast turned off. Main System: QNAP TS-451+ NAS > Silent Angel Bonn N8 > Sonore opticalModule Deluxe v2 > Corning SMF with Finisar FTLF1318P3BTL SFPs > Uptone EtherREGEN > exaSound PlayPoint and e32 Mk-II DAC > Meitner MTR-101 Plus monoblocks > Bamberg S5-MTM sealed standmount speakers. Crown XLi 1500 powering AV123 Rocket UFW10 stereo subwoofers Upgraded power on all switches, renderer and DAC. Link to comment
0 R1200CL Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, audiobomber said: For highest fidelity, an extender is connected to the audio system via LAN cable should have the wi-fi broadcast turned off. That’s a contradiction. Then you purchase a switch 😀 botrytis 1 Link to comment
0 audiobomber Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 The wi-fi broadcast radio adds digital noise. Turning it off lowers the amount of noise in the system, regardless of whether you add a switch or not. I use an etherregen. It's great, but not perfect. It still benefits from noise control upstream. Main System: QNAP TS-451+ NAS > Silent Angel Bonn N8 > Sonore opticalModule Deluxe v2 > Corning SMF with Finisar FTLF1318P3BTL SFPs > Uptone EtherREGEN > exaSound PlayPoint and e32 Mk-II DAC > Meitner MTR-101 Plus monoblocks > Bamberg S5-MTM sealed standmount speakers. Crown XLi 1500 powering AV123 Rocket UFW10 stereo subwoofers Upgraded power on all switches, renderer and DAC. Link to comment
0 AudioDoctor Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 5 hours ago, botrytis said: Not true. Both frequencies are used for Wi-Fi 6 as my home router is Wi-Fi 6.0 and both are used. 5.0 has a shorter range compared to 2.4. Interesting. In that case I have devices that are not wifi 6 on my wireless network. In my system I can turn off the 2.4ghz radios and use only the 5ghz, or vice versa. I can also set them to be separate WiFi networks, which is what I did. If WiFi 6 uses both, what is the point of that? No electron left behind. Link to comment
0 Blake Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 I will be plugging an ethernet cable to the TP Link RE 605X, as follows: TP Link > cable > SoTM 10-G > EtherRegen > Lumin U2 Mini. audiobomber 1 Speaker Room: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Pacific 2 | Viva Linea | Constellation Inspiration Stereo 1.0 | FinkTeam Kim | Revel subs Office Headphone System: Lumin U1X | Lampizator Golden Gate 3 | Viva Egoista | Abyss AB1266 Phi TC Link to comment
0 botrytis Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 30 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said: Interesting. In that case I have devices that are not wifi 6 on my wireless network. In my system I can turn off the 2.4ghz radios and use only the 5ghz, or vice versa. I can also set them to be separate WiFi networks, which is what I did. If WiFi 6 uses both, what is the point of that? Exactly - my phone, my android pad are all WiFi 6 Current: Daphile on an AMD A10-9500 with 16 GB RAM DAC - TEAC UD-501 DAC Pre-amp - Rotel RC-1590 Amplification - Benchmark AHB2 amplifier Speakers - Revel M126Be with 2 REL 7/ti subwoofers Cables - Tara Labs RSC Reference and Blue Jean Cable Balanced Interconnects Link to comment
0 AudioDoctor Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 hour ago, botrytis said: Exactly - my phone, my android pad are all WiFi 6 Edit: Nevermind, I see the reason to separate out the bands now is to put the non wifi 6 devices on one and leave the other for the wifi 6 devices. Also, I re-read my research, I was wrong, its 6E that uses its own band (6Ghz) Jud 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
0 semente Posted August 28, 2022 Author Share Posted August 28, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 3:12 PM, audiobomber said: The downside of a plug-in extender like the RE650 is that the power supply can't be easily upgraded. For highest fidelity, an extender is connected to the audio system via LAN cable should have the wi-fi broadcast turned off. I can add a switch between the Wi-Fi receiver and the microRendu "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256) Link to comment
0 audiobomber Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 17 hours ago, semente said: I can add a switch between the Wi-Fi receiver and the microRendu IME, a good switch can help, but a bad one can harm sound quality. Even a good switch is not a panacea. As I said above. network improvements matter, whether one uses a switch or not. Main System: QNAP TS-451+ NAS > Silent Angel Bonn N8 > Sonore opticalModule Deluxe v2 > Corning SMF with Finisar FTLF1318P3BTL SFPs > Uptone EtherREGEN > exaSound PlayPoint and e32 Mk-II DAC > Meitner MTR-101 Plus monoblocks > Bamberg S5-MTM sealed standmount speakers. Crown XLi 1500 powering AV123 Rocket UFW10 stereo subwoofers Upgraded power on all switches, renderer and DAC. Link to comment
0 Popular Post semente Posted October 1, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 1, 2022 On 8/25/2022 at 6:09 PM, The Computer Audiophile said: I would do something like this - Hi Chris, I have just installed the TP-Link, works as expected, thanks for the suggestion. The Computer Audiophile and Jud 2 "Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256) Link to comment
0 Popular Post Jud Posted October 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2022 On 8/27/2022 at 2:02 PM, AudioDoctor said: Edit: Nevermind, I see the reason to separate out the bands now is to put the non wifi 6 devices on one and leave the other for the wifi 6 devices. A good Wi-Fi 6/6E mesh router system will automatically take care of this. botrytis, semente and AudioDoctor 3 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
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semente
Hi,
Is there a Wi-Fi network gizmo that I can plug into a microRendu?
I have moved and can no longer use an Ethernet wire to connect it to the switch.
Cheers,
Ricardo
Edit: I have an entry-level Tenda mesh but it’s rubbish and makes an annoying high-pitch noise
"Science draws the wave, poetry fills it with water" Teixeira de Pascoaes
HQPlayer Desktop / Mac mini → Intona 7054 → RME ADI-2 DAC FS (DSD256)
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