Gustard R26 new R2R DAC

[rafa]

Gustard is preparing new R2R DAC. R26. 

 

http://erji.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2266481

[rafa]

I must say it looks elegant. Finally! ;) 

 

 

[davide256]

Any indications of price?  

[giordy60]

50 minutes ago, davide256 said:

Any indications of price?  

$ 1,350 excluding duty and VAT......

[davide256]

Looks like it will have an endpoint streamer section, back picture shows wifi and ethernet jacks. If it has remote  volume control, that would

be very nice for a minimalist setup.

 

[rafa]

13 hours ago, davide256 said:

If it has remote  volume control

It is visible in the post above your,

[noreilly]

Nice post Rafa. Fantastic to see more releases of R2R DACs

[firedog]

Volume control and lan input make this a very nice option. 

[rafa]

20 hours ago, firedog said:

Volume control

Well, if volume control is in digital domain is very low value for me. But wont complain - I don't have to use it :) 

 

Can't wait to hear some opinions from first users. :)

[rafa]

Shenzenaudio and Audiophonics already offer them. Can't wait to hear some users opinions :)

[davide256]

@GoldenOne hoping you review this one soon 😀  Price point puts it head to head with the Pontus, hopefully it’s clean of linear interpolation 

[GoldenOne]

On 6/23/2022 at 11:03 PM, davide256 said:

@GoldenOne hoping you review this one soon 😀  Price point puts it head to head with the Pontus, hopefully it’s clean of linear interpolation 

Interestingly it does LOOK like the Ares 2 ladder design (though with Gustard's power supply/digital sections and notably output stage, something the Ares 2 doesn't have).

I wouldn't be surprised if this is a similar situation to the Musician Pegasus where the converter design is licensed from denafrips.
I've unfortunately not had the chance to test the Pegasus and don't think I'll be getting one of these in so we'll have to see. I'd be pretty interested to see how it behaves though

[Zauurx]

47 minutes ago, GoldenOne said:

Interestingly it does LOOK like the Ares 2 ladder design (though with Gustard's power supply/digital sections and notably output stage, something the Ares 2 doesn't have).

I wouldn't be surprised if this is a similar situation to the Musician Pegasus where the converter design is licensed from denafrips.
I've unfortunately not had the chance to test the Pegasus and don't think I'll be getting one of these in so we'll have to see. I'd be pretty interested to see how it behaves though

 

I have a Pegasus which I love. On the other hand, in DSD for the Gustrad, we talk about "1 bit" and for the Pegasus, we talk about "6 bits" processing and FGPA.

 

https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/dac-with-volume/gustard-dac-r26-discrete-r2r-dac-i2s-bluetooth-lan-airplay-roon-dlna-32bit-768khz-dsd512-silver-p-16597.html

https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/dac-without-volume/musician-pegasus-discrete-balanced-r2r-dac-32bit-1536khz-dsd1024-black-p-15072.html

 

https://www.l7audiolab.com/f/measurements-of-musician-pegasus-r2r-dac/

https://www.l7audiolab.com/f/gustard-r26

 

And almost a few db difference 124 (Pegasus) < 115 (Gustard)

But the interest (also) is the direct integration of the network... NAA update ? 

 

[rafa]

1 hour ago, GoldenOne said:

Interestingly it does LOOK like the Ares 2 ladder design (though with Gustard's power supply/digital sections and notably output stage, something the Ares 2 doesn't have).

I wouldn't be surprised if this is a similar situation to the Musician Pegasus where the converter design is licensed from denafrips.
I've unfortunately not had the chance to test the Pegasus and don't think I'll be getting one of these in so we'll have to see. I'd be pretty interested to see how it behaves though

Hopefully doesn't sound like Denafrips

[davide256]

7 hours ago, GoldenOne said:

Interestingly it does LOOK like the Ares 2 ladder design (though with Gustard's power supply/digital sections and notably output stage, something the Ares 2 doesn't have).

I wouldn't be surprised if this is a similar situation to the Musician Pegasus where the converter design is licensed from denafrips.
I've unfortunately not had the chance to test the Pegasus and don't think I'll be getting one of these in so we'll have to see. I'd be pretty interested to see how it behaves though

I really liked the Ares 2... but the linear interpolation killed it for me as I play mostly 44/16 and the treble roll off in NOS mode was blatant.

[giordy60]

On 6/28/2022 at 6:10 PM, davide256 said:

I really liked the Ares 2... but the linear interpolation killed it for me as I play mostly 44/16 and the treble roll off in NOS mode was blatant.

for some years I have been using an ares2 with hqp and usually the upsampla software in pcm at 1411/1536 mhz and in dsd at 512
I don't remember ever carrying out a roll-off on the highs (at least I think eh!) .... obviously I use several filters and modulators created by Jussi.
to stay on the subject .... I'm also curious to hear the impressions of the new R2R gustard 

[davide256]

2 hours ago, giordy60 said:

for some years I have been using an ares2 with hqp and usually the upsampla software in pcm at 1411/1536 mhz and in dsd at 512
I don't remember ever carrying out a roll-off on the highs (at least I think eh!) .... obviously I use several filters and modulators created by Jussi.
to stay on the subject .... I'm also curious to hear the impressions of the new R2R gustard 

I prefer NOS for correct timbre... if you don't up-sample, the lower the bit rate, the worse the treble roll off with Ares II in NOS mode.

[giordy60]

On 7/2/2022 at 7:31 PM, davide256 said:

if you don't up-sample, the lower the bit rate, the worse the treble roll off with

about this I don't know .... never used in this way 🤷‍♂️

[botrytis]

I have an R26 (not the pro version) on order. I will put in my system and see how it sounds, compared to my TEAC DAC.

[davide256]

39 minutes ago, botrytis said:

I have an R26 (not the pro version) on order. I will put in my system and see how it sounds, compared to my TEAC DAC.

please let us all know if you find that it has a usable volume control. Gustard is lagging on a posted user manual, and being able to go DAC > XLR direct to amp

would be nice

[botrytis]

1 hour ago, davide256 said:

please let us all know if you find that it has a usable volume control. Gustard is lagging on a posted user manual, and being able to go DAC > XLR direct to amp

would be nice

 

I am doing that now with my TEAC. Actually, pre to amp is also balanced and 18 ft long. I could try that as the Benchmark amp can change sensitivity.

[botrytis]

I have been in contact with my seller and he said they have been backlogged with orders for this DAC. It should ship this week.

[EMINENT]

😃

[EMINENT]

On 7/4/2022 at 9:08 AM, davide256 said:

please let us all know if you find that it has a usable volume control. Gustard is lagging on a posted user manual, and being able to go DAC > XLR direct to amp

would be nice

Ok, not only that... none in the box either!🤪

[EMINENT]

Gustard sent me the manual upon request.