Popular Post AudioDoctor Posted September 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2021 Listening now MarkusBarkus and PatrickMcGuire 2 No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 31 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: And? I am buying it here in a second when I find my wallet. edit: And it's great, the music is great, the recording is great, I love it. The Computer Audiophile 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, PeterG said: When you say unfortunately "popular" like Cecile McLorin Salvant, you confuse me--there is no one else on the planet who sings like Cecile. While I'll admit she has an amazing voice... how she uses it and how the music is performed are not to my liking. I only say this to highlight the fact that which artist or music someone likes is 100% subjective and none are better or worse. There are people who actually like Nickelback... As hard as that is for me to comprehend. No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, PeterG said: But I disagree that "none are better or worse". You've noted that Cecile is far more skilled that most...and that Nickelback are far less But, that's because it's only my opinion. I know someone who would vehemently disagree with me and think Nickelback is far superior. That was my point. The Computer Audiophile 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, kumakuma said: You've also got people who listen to Diana Krall... 👺 We hate those people... ;-) kumakuma 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
Popular Post AudioDoctor Posted September 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said: If two singers are trying to impersonate Billie, then we can probably start judging which one did it closer to the original. All other original art / performances stand on their own. A cover of a song is an original performance and we can like it or not, but there’s no right or wrong way to do it. Jeff Buckleys cover of Leonard Cohens Hallelujah is a great example of that. Jud and The Computer Audiophile 1 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, PeterG said: I understand that's your point, but I disagree. Mainly because I don't think you're the only one with your opinion, and also that some opinions are worth more than others. Everyone will have different opinions on the worthiness of an opinion as well... where do you draw the line? regarding art/music it is purely subjective. No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, kumakuma said: Here's another example of how to transform the familiar into something completely new and original. Anyone who can't see the artistry in this is dead to me... 👺 She also ruined, uhm, I meant covered, The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face and I don't like it at all despite thinking it had great potential. No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Just now, The Computer Audiophile said: I know which version I like, but I have friends who’d go for this one every time. Definitely my favorite cover of all time. No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 33 minutes ago, kumakuma said: The video of Bill Shatner singing is certainly proof of this... Don't judge me... ;-) No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 29 minutes ago, shum3s said: If music/art is purely subjective, then what’s the big deal for a given artist to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Are they inducted purely on the subjectivity of the 38 individuals who vote, or do they have some guiding principles, dare I say absolutes in determining who gets inducted? I am not saying subjectivity dose not play a role in determining what I like or don’t like. But there is the reality called talent, a voice being pitch perfect, levels of proficiency in mastering a instrument. In all human endeavors, abilities, talent, giftedness, and discipline is not a matter of subjectivity; otherwise mediocrity would be the standard. Sam Then how do you explain Nickelback? Or any of the awful bands just like them? No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 1 hour ago, firedog said: Actually, it usually is. Shum3 said that, not me. No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 1 minute ago, hopkins said: I'm all for covers, and there are many artists I love who are not composers and don't perform originals. But in Billie Holiday's case this version she sang in 1935 is so perfect that everything pales in comparison. There are plenty of famous singers who covered it after, plenty that I like, but it always seems like a futile effort 😂 In. Your. Opinion. No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 58 minutes ago, hopkins said: Then there's no point in reading any music reviews? We cannot express an opinion about "art"? I suppose there are still technical points that can be made regarding the performance, but subjectively, you're only getting that persons opinion. No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 Just now, hopkins said: Yes! This thread is all about our opinions. Then why are you beating the dead horse, over and over? No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rexp said: Visual art is very subjective, if you asked non arty people what they prefer, a grand master or an average modern painting, you'd get a 50/50 split. On the other hand if you asked non music lovers to compare a classic original song to an average cover version, most would go for the original. So if there is concensus something is better, it is better. That would mean Britney Spears is better than say, Nina Simone... No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Rexp said: A Britney cover of a Nina original judged better by the majority? I dont think so. But I take your point. How about 'its better within its genre, if the majority prefer it'? A majority doesn't make a thing right or better... I can come up with more examples if you want? No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 hours ago, The Computer Audiophile said: Britney is a great entertainer. I've seen her live. That said, I don't get the irony. Because art is subjective, some people think Britney is great while others don't. Some thing Nina Simone is great while others don't. I like both entertainers. Thats not my point. More people liking Britney would make her "better" according to the majority criteria. My point was to make clear that's not a very good metric to use because this is subjective. I bet most here don't think Britney is better than Nina. I chose Britney on purpose. No electron left behind. Link to comment
Popular Post AudioDoctor Posted September 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2021 In my opinion, there are artists that are much better than Britney that are nowhere near as popular and nearly unknown outside of music nerd circles. A mass and spontaneous liking of something only proves humans are programmed to group think and follow the pack instead of think for themselves. yyz, PYP and fas42 3 No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 31 minutes ago, PeterG said: Britney is beautiful by pretty much any American standard. Guess what... I disagree. kumakuma 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
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