The Computer Audiophile Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 View full article Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post joelha Posted July 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2021 Fantastic information and research, Chris. These are the kinds of articles that originally drew me to your site. Thanks for giving me (and probably many others) another compelling streaming option. Joel The Computer Audiophile and Jud 2 Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 22, 2021 Author Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 hours ago, joelha said: Fantastic information and research, Chris. These are the kinds of articles that originally drew me to your site. Thanks for giving me (and probably many others) another compelling streaming option. Joel Thanks so much for the kind words Joel. These articles are fun to research and write :~) Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Jud Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Am I correct in thinking that both Vox and Brio would be somewhat of a PITA to use as backup applications because Vox doesn't save artwork and doesn't maintain the usual directory structure, while Brio requires selecting albums for downloading one at a time? I'm tempted to try Vox due to the excellent pricing for remote access bundled with a kind of backup, but wow what a pain if I really did lose my local collection. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jud said: Am I correct in thinking that both Vox and Brio would be somewhat of a PITA to use as backup applications because Vox doesn't save artwork and doesn't maintain the usual directory structure, while Brio requires selecting albums for downloading one at a time? I'm tempted to try Vox due to the excellent pricing for remote access bundled with a kind of backup, but wow what a pain if I really did lose my local collection. Correct all around Jud. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Jud Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 It's interesting, if I hadn't already gone to the trouble of setting up my own remote access, I think Vox would likely win. But since I have, I've got a very robust backup solution (Backblaze offers unlimited backup storage for $60/yr, essentially the same cost as Vox - I use their slightly more expensive B2 service because it allows me to do some fun geeky stuff the unlimited doesn't), and then it's just $26/yr more for the Subsonic music server and a domain name. I guess that's one advantage of rolling your own that to some extent offsets the extra work to set it up: You get to customize things to your liking. The Computer Audiophile 1 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Jud Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Hah! Well, if we like more options, look at this: https://asti.ga (I haven't tried it yet, but curious.) The Computer Audiophile 1 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
R1200CL Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I have just been able to access Roon remotely through my iPhone using IPSec and IPFire (VPN and Roadwarrior mode). I will hopefully write more about it if @The Computer Audiophile isn’t planning a part 3 where this is covered. Link to comment
tseipel Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Why not just use JRMC and JRemote? That's my go-to anytime we're out of the country. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, tseipel said: Why not just use JRMC and JRemote? That's my go-to anytime we're out of the country. No offline capability. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Mike27 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 No one I think is in my tree. I just want something that will let me stream any audio in “real time” from a PC running broadcast automation software to my car. I’m actually doing this right now (ok, I’m on the patio, not driving) but only as 128k AAC. It actually sounds surprisingly good. And I can listen about a couple hours a day without jacking up the phone bill. But, I depend on the good graces of a friend who lets me have a little server bandwidth for free. What I’d like is something flexible enough to handle 5-10 connections at once, mostly because of coverage dropouts reconnecting without closing the now-lost blah blah not relevant. 16/48 would be adequate. Probably not much money to be made though, as I am a notorious skinflint. Most of the time. But I devour these articles and hope I can find some usable edge case. Thanks!! Link to comment
Jud Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 8 hours ago, Mike27 said: No one I think is in my tree. I just want something that will let me stream any audio in “real time” from a PC running broadcast automation software to my car. I’m actually doing this right now (ok, I’m on the patio, not driving) but only as 128k AAC. It actually sounds surprisingly good. And I can listen about a couple hours a day without jacking up the phone bill. But, I depend on the good graces of a friend who lets me have a little server bandwidth for free. What I’d like is something flexible enough to handle 5-10 connections at once, mostly because of coverage dropouts reconnecting without closing the now-lost blah blah not relevant. 16/48 would be adequate. Probably not much money to be made though, as I am a notorious skinflint. Most of the time. But I devour these articles and hope I can find some usable edge case. Thanks!! Do you require the automation? Are you automating the playback of your own files? One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Popular Post Mike27 Posted August 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2021 22 minutes ago, Jud said: Do you require the automation? Are you automating the playback of your own files? I do, actually. I rotate about 20,000 music tracks with radio jingles, sound FX, etc. It’s kind of an outgrowth of when I was a kid in the ‘60s and ran a micro-powered FM station from my parents’ basement. That neighbor girl never did notice. kumakuma and Jud 1 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Jud Posted August 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 11:09 PM, Jud said: Hah! Well, if we like more options, look at this: https://asti.ga (I haven't tried it yet, but curious.) I've tried it and it works. Advantages: - Syncs to a wide variety of cloud storage providers, including Backblaze B2, Amazon S3, Google Drive, Synology, Yandex, OneDrive for Business, and more, with the Subsonic music server. This means it uses the storage you already have, so no uploading. And perhaps most important, you don't need a home computer or server running to play your collection if it's backed up to one of these cloud storage services. - If you are content to run a sync no more than once every 3 days, it's completely free. (More often and you need the Premium level, which isn't expensive itself - 24 Euros annually.) - It works with the Subsonic API, so virtually all Subsonic apps should work with it. I've tested with AVSub and play:Sub, which both work. Through the apps you have offline mode (AVSub refers to this as caching), AirPlay and CarPlay. Chromecast capability is available via both the Astiga web player and Subsonic apps. To summarize, for those who back up their music to the cloud: It works fine; you don't need to run a computer/server at home; you don't need to upload anything; the free tier of service is perfectly acceptable, and the Premium level isn't expensive; offline mode, AirPlay and CarPlay are available through apps; and Chromecast is available via both the web player and apps. The Computer Audiophile and Dan Gravell 2 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Dan Gravell Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I've just heard that BRIO is ceasing service (rather abruptly) at the end of this month (March 2024). If anyone needs any help migrating to Astiga ( https://asti.ga - fully native streaming from cloud storage) let me know... Disclaimer: Astiga is a commercial product. The Computer Audiophile 1 bliss - fully automated music organizer. Read the music library management blog. Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 5 minutes ago, Dan Gravell said: I've just heard that BRIO is ceasing service (rather abruptly) at the end of this month (March 2024). If anyone needs any help migrating to Astiga ( https://asti.ga - fully native streaming from cloud storage) let me know... Disclaimer: Astiga is a commercial product. Oh wow. Thanks for the update Dan. Do you know if this includes its behind the scenes services to sites like HDtracks? Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Dan Gravell Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Sorry - no idea. The email notification was addressed to me as an end-user of the service. The Computer Audiophile 1 bliss - fully automated music organizer. Read the music library management blog. Link to comment
Jud Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just a note that while I enjoyed Astiga, depending on your cloud service's egress charges, use of it may run into money. I settled on putting my local music on the Web via a home server app as my preferred solution (started with Subsonic, now using Airsonic-advanced, which is free). The Computer Audiophile 1 One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Dan Gravell Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Thanks - you're right, it is a concern - but broadly egress seems to be in retreat these days following the realisation just how much of people's AWS bills are "Data Transfer"! Plus, on the really consumer grade services like Google Drive and Dropbox it simply isn't a thing. Jud 1 bliss - fully automated music organizer. Read the music library management blog. Link to comment
Jud Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 8 hours ago, Dan Gravell said: Thanks - you're right, it is a concern - but broadly egress seems to be in retreat these days following the realisation just how much of people's AWS bills are "Data Transfer"! Plus, on the really consumer grade services like Google Drive and Dropbox it simply isn't a thing. I ran into the extra charges a couple of years ago for my music files backed up on Backblaze B2. I don't know about other services, or even whether Backblaze still has the same charges for egress. Just something to check out if you want to use Astiga. One never knows, do one? - Fats Waller The fairest thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art and true science. - Einstein Computer, Audirvana -> optical Ethernet to Fitlet3 -> Fibbr Alpha Optical USB -> iFi NEO iDSD DAC -> Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini (Purifi based) -> Vandersteen 3A Signature. Link to comment
Dan Gravell Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 No, Backblaze removed egress fees (with some caveats) 6 months ago https://www.backblaze.com/blog/2023-product-announcement/ Jud 1 bliss - fully automated music organizer. Read the music library management blog. Link to comment
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