Popular Post Iving Posted July 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2021 52 minutes ago, hopkins said: Absolutely. I have found that there is a lot of reticence from some audiophiles to participate in blind tests as they are convinced they are "objective". My suspicion, however, is that some are simply worried about the outcome. They see it as a stressful situation where they may end up "losing" (what?). I'd happily sit blind tests. For the hell of it. For fun. And to see what I could learn. We'd need an impartial experimenter who wouldn't misinterpret the results. Especially if she or he held that any performance failure on my part, in laboratory conditions, could be taken as proof inerrant of no factual difference between conditions (cf. knowledge, familiarity, training, practice). Or proof inerrant that I might not succeed also in "field" conditions (domestic, my system, my music, my control over my mental and emotional state). Or proof inerrant that I couldn't hear the kinds of SQ deltas I thought I could, tweaking this and that, just because I failed to pass a test at p<0.05 when experimental control (= good) had reduced the non-criterion factors under test to one or two at most. We'd need to take into account the extent to which the equipment and its assembly and its power source were unfamiliar to me - that's one heck of a set of nuisance variables right there. We'd need listening and evaluation test conditions that as closely as possible (i.e. subject to isolation of independent variables) mapped to what I do when I think I can hear a difference. That is - an experimenter who understood the logic behind probability and weight of evidence. We'd need to concur about the design of the test so that we could concur equally about the interpretation of its results. We'd need to make sure that undue influence (especially of the social kind) had been ruled out. Let alone, of course, any financial incentive either way. My travel and subsistence costs excepted ... assuming a non-domestic design satisfying the curiosity and pre-requisites of all parties. Confused and BassFace 1 1 Link to comment
Iving Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 16 hours ago, BassFace said: no wonder Pros turn off in our droves on sites like these. That previous video of Harry Enfield sums it up in a nut shell. 👍 An interesting reflection. Actually, the target of the "Only me!" jibe is a "Pro" - in business as a manufacturer if I'm not mistaken. I have Pro Audio gear (RedNet/DAC) and like to visit gearslutz and the like occasionally. Truly, you get just as many "Only me!"s on those Forums, and the threads are just as prone to disagreement and flaming. Audiophile Style is a very civilised place as hobby Forums go. My impression is that the difference is mainly one of implicit agenda. Whereas we hobbyists account to our own hedonistic prerogatives, the piper calling the tune on Pro Forums - on, but especially between the lines - is employment/making a living etc. Hence a mighty cultural divide. You don't often see professionals mixing socially with their customers! Sure - you hear about the medic and the patient striking up a royal friendship - but it's not the norm. Superdad 1 Link to comment
Iving Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, BassFace said: Factions lol - yeah s'pose so Link to comment
Popular Post Iving Posted July 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2021 Just now, opus101 said: I guess you've not been there very recently as its had a name 'cleanse' to make it more thoroughly PC. Its new, fully-approved name is 'gearspace'. lol I'm an old man and something I did 8 years ago feels like only yesterday ;-) opus101 and fas42 1 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Iving Posted July 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, BassFace said: surely ignoring folk wont make any friends.... ... it might Summit, The Computer Audiophile and audiobomber 1 2 Link to comment
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