AudioDoctor Posted September 4, 2021 Author Share Posted September 4, 2021 Just now, hopkins said: You could also open a topic to request all the Roon functionality to be added to HQPlayer... lol... ok... No electron left behind. Link to comment
Qhwoeprktiyns Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 minute ago, AudioDoctor said: lol... ok... I'm not saying there isn't room for improvement. I'm sure some of the issues raised here are perfectly justified (and I had my own frustrations with Roon, as I mentioned) but one has to be realistic. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 4, 2021 Author Share Posted September 4, 2021 Just now, hopkins said: but one has to be realistic. I agree. No electron left behind. Link to comment
Popular Post Mike Rubin Posted September 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2021 5 hours ago, hopkins said: SQ can be improved simply by using a better DAC 🙂 That's not what they are saying over there at aufiosciencereview.com. $200 or so should get you all the fidelity humans are capable of hearing. 😛😜😝 Sorry, couldn't resist that. AudioDoctor and Patatorz 2 Living room: Synology 218+ NAS > NUC 10 i7 > HQP Embedded > xfinity Xfi Router > Netgear GS348 Switch > Sonore Optical Module Deluxe > Sonore Signature Rendu SE Optical Tier 2 > Okto DAC 8 Stereo > Topping Pre90 Preamp > Apollon Audio 1ET400A Mini > Revel F32 Concertas Computer Desk System: Synology DS-218+ NAS > Dell XPS 8930/NUC 10 i7 > HQP Desktop > xfinity Xfi Router > EtherRegen > ultraRendu > Topping D90 DAC > Audioengine A5+'s Link to comment
davide256 Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 5 hours ago, AudioDoctor said: I am not alone in considering Roon's SQ to be sub par, and when I want to listen for anything other than convenience I turn Roon off and use other players, specifically HQPlayer. Perhaps the question you need to ask yourself is, why don't I hear the difference? edit: It doesn't take mega dollars to hear the differences either, in my opinion. I can hear it clear as day with a raspberry Pi4 into a Schiit Modi multibit. ? Roon does player interface great but endpoint USB out is mediocre HQPlayer does endpoint USB out great but player interface is a la late 1990's... 1 step removed from DOS, kissing cousin to Foobar2000 Takes these two half's to make a whole.... I don't like using either by itself. Regards, Dave Audio system Link to comment
Popular Post Miska Posted September 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2021 53 minutes ago, hopkins said: You could have opened a topic to request all the Roon functionality to be added to HQPlayer... It would have been interesting... Usually when people say this, they have not actually even tried HQPlayer standalone... AudioDoctor, lucretius, Iving and 2 others 5 Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
jiminlogansquare Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 OK, as a Roon + HQPlayer user, I have questions. I utilize convolution filters generated by @mitchco via Roon. This allows me to apply those filters to Qobuz streaming content, which nowadays is about 95% of what I listen to. (1) How do I use my existing convolution filters, created for use with Roon, in HQPlayer without utilizing Roon? (2) How do a I listen to Qobuz streaming through HQPlayer without utilizing Roon? R1200CL 1 Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, jiminlogansquare said: (1) How do I use my existing convolution filters, created for use with Roon, in HQPlayer without utilizing Roon? This is a question for @Miska 2 minutes ago, jiminlogansquare said: How do a I listen to Qobuz streaming through HQPlayer without utilizing Roon? you don't. I use Roon to stream an album to decide to buy, and for convenience of streaming to multiple endpoints in the house. HQPlayer is local files only when used as a standalone player. No electron left behind. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 2 hours ago, davide256 said: ? Roon does player interface great but endpoint USB out is mediocre HQPlayer does endpoint USB out great but player interface is a la late 1990's... 1 step removed from DOS, kissing cousin to Foobar2000 Takes these two half's to make a whole.... I don't like using either by itself. Do you want convenience or sound quality... I also use the two together, however I also find that HQPlayer sounds even better when not using Roon at all. Patatorz 1 No electron left behind. Link to comment
jvvita Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, jiminlogansquare said: OK, as a Roon + HQPlayer user, I have questions. I utilize convolution filters generated by @mitchco via Roon. This allows me to apply those filters to Qobuz streaming content, which nowadays is about 95% of what I listen to. (1) How do I use my existing convolution filters, created for use with Roon, in HQPlayer without utilizing Roon? (2) How do a I listen to Qobuz streaming through HQPlayer without utilizing Roon? you could use hqplayer embedded, load your filters in it, and then use some upnp App to act as server to stream quobuz to it (such as mconnect app ot bubble upnp App). But you would surely miss the way Roon shows your music to you. That is why I am using it still: the most beautiful and friendly way to browse my music and control hqplayer. Link to comment
jiminlogansquare Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Is there some guidance available on how to load convolution filters created via Audiolense for use with Roon into HQPlayer? I certainly would utilize HQPlayer without Roon to play my local files (I have a lot of them!), if I knew how to apply my convolution filters via HQPlayer without Roon. Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted September 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2021 42 minutes ago, jiminlogansquare said: 1) How do I use my existing convolution filters, created for use with Roon, in HQPlayer without utilizing Roon? (2) How do a I listen to Qobuz streaming through HQPlayer without utilizing Roon? I’m working on an article that shows you how to do both. jiminlogansquare, Patatorz, AudioDoctor and 1 other 4 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
davide256 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 21 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said: Do you want convenience or sound quality... I also use the two together, however I also find that HQPlayer sounds even better when not using Roon at all. You just don't have enough PC's. thats all 🤪 But seriously, I am wondering if you run Roon on separate machine from HQPlayer PC or have tried it? Can't tell where Roon resides from your profile Regards, Dave Audio system Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, davide256 said: Can't tell where Roon resides Really? You can't tell that I run roon on an M1 Mac mini and HQPlayer on a machine with an AMD 5950X and an Nvidia 3090 gpu? No electron left behind. Link to comment
davide256 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said: Really? You can't tell that I run roon on an M1 Mac mini and HQPlayer on a machine with an AMD 5950X and an Nvidia 3090 gpu? Thanks!! I missed the M1 mini with Roon part. AudioDoctor 1 Regards, Dave Audio system Link to comment
jiminlogansquare Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Also, I just now tried loading my local files into HQPlayer embedded. I provided the path on my sonicTransporter where all of my files reside. HQPlayer told me to wait 10 seconds, and then ... only 75 of my 1,000+ albums got imported. Link to comment
AudioDoctor Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, jiminlogansquare said: Also, I just now tried loading my local files into HQPlayer embedded. I provided the path on my sonicTransporter where all of my files reside. HQPlayer told me to wait 10 seconds, and then ... only 75 of my 1,000+ albums got imported. That I can't help you with, this is why I like local storage. I am positive if you head over to the HQPlayer thread, you will get help pretty quick from someone who knows what to do, or Miska himself. No electron left behind. Link to comment
Miska Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 9 hours ago, jiminlogansquare said: (1) How do I use my existing convolution filters, created for use with Roon, in HQPlayer without utilizing Roon? You use highest rate convolution filters you have in HQPlayer instead. 9 hours ago, jiminlogansquare said: (2) How do a I listen to Qobuz streaming through HQPlayer without utilizing Roon? If you use HQPlayer Embedded, you can use for example mConnect Player app on iOS/Android and likely BubbleUPnP Android app works too. jiminlogansquare 1 Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Miska Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 9 hours ago, jiminlogansquare said: Also, I just now tried loading my local files into HQPlayer embedded. I provided the path on my sonicTransporter where all of my files reside. HQPlayer told me to wait 10 seconds, and then ... only 75 of my 1,000+ albums got imported. Are those in one of the supported formats? Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Miska Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 9 hours ago, jiminlogansquare said: Is there some guidance available on how to load convolution filters created via Audiolense for use with Roon into HQPlayer? I certainly would utilize HQPlayer without Roon to play my local files (I have a lot of them!), if I knew how to apply my convolution filters via HQPlayer without Roon. I think Audiolense can export mono WAV filters these days and you can directly use these in HQPlayer. Just generate filters for 382.8k rate and you have pretty optimal situation. jiminlogansquare 1 Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
jiminlogansquare Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Miska said: Are those in one of the supported formats? Ah, I think that could be the issue. The vast majority of my music files are ALAC/M4A format. I moved to Roon from an iTunes setup. That occurred so long ago, I had forgotten that detail. Link to comment
Axiom05 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Why does HQP not support ALAC? That is the one thing that is stopping me from moving to HQP. I also started with a Mac-based music player (Pure Music) and the majority of my files are ALAC. Main System: [Synology DS216, Rpi-4b LMS (pCP)], Holo Audio Red, Ayre QX-5 Twenty, Ayre KX-5 Twenty, Ayre VX-5 Twenty, Revel Ultima Studio2, Iconoclast speaker cables & interconnects, RealTraps acoustic treatments Living Room: Sonore ultraRendu, Ayre QB-9DSD, Simaudio MOON 340iX, B&W 802 Diamond Link to comment
bibo01 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Axiom05 said: Why does HQP not support ALAC? That is the one thing that is stopping me from moving to HQP. I also started with a Mac-based music player (Pure Music) and the majority of my files are ALAC. Miska's reply The Computer Audiophile 1 How curious are you? Link to comment
Popular Post Miska Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 7 hours ago, bibo01 said: Miska's reply As an update, Apple never open sourced the code that deals with the .m4a containers where ALAC is usually housed. They only opensourced the codec that deals with the content inside the container. ALAC is practically Apple-only format not really used on any other platforms. Goes into same category as WMA on Windows. There are good truly open source cross-platform lossless formats such as FLAC and WavPack which are both supported by HQPlayer. And as they are all lossless, you can losslessly convert between these formats. AudioDoctor, The Computer Audiophile and Iving 2 1 Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
Miska Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 On 9/5/2021 at 1:54 AM, davide256 said: HQPlayer does endpoint USB out great but player interface is a la late 1990's... 1 step removed from DOS, kissing cousin to Foobar2000 Can someone please explain what is the late 90's part in HQPlayer GUI? I've tried to make it pretty modern with transition animations and everything... Signalyst - Developer of HQPlayer Pulse & Fidelity - Software Defined Amplifiers Link to comment
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