The Computer Audiophile Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 2:22 PM, AudioDoctor said: I made a request that background processing be disabled while music is playing. That would be great. I’ve run into issues with music stuttering, only to see Roon maxing out my CPU for some reason. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 On 7/5/2021 at 3:33 AM, March Audio said: The only background process that I am aware of that can eat the CPU is the audio analysis. However you can set that to whatever level you want, from all your cores, to throttled to completely off. After the intial scan AFAIK it only kicks off when you add new material. Cant say I have found it causing any problems here. 20 hours ago, AudioDoctor said: I let that run overnight when I switched to this server and it has been done for ages. The truth of oil is that Roon is doing a lot of activity in the background most of the time. I don't know why it needs to do it during music playback or why it required 145% of CPU resources during music playback. But it did and it was audible as a loss of quality in the sound. Same here. Issues with CPU even though the library analysis has been done for months. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 1 minute ago, kennyb123 said: The processing might be a function of how many network folders you have Roon watching. Antipodes came up with a smart approach of having only a single watched folder. This folder is essentially a single virtual volume with network folders mounted by Linux. Antipodes claims that this cuts down on processing. I can’t confirm or deny, but wonder if those who see all this processing have Roon watching a number of shared folders. Only two here. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, seeteeyou said: This one would be way too funny and I just couldn't resist since I'm also an Asian myself, my classmates and I were constantly making fun of our teachers back in our high school days https://www.vox.com/videos/2019/3/26/18282192/asian-accent-l-and-r Looney Tunes FTW. Thanks for that. I love learning about other cultures and communication etc… I think looking at ourselves with a little humility or self deprecating humor is always good. The people I met in Kenya swapped Ls and Rs. When they said the word roger, to communicate the previous audio transmission via CB radio was understood, it sounded like they said lawyer. We all had fun talking about it and my Minnesota accent provided plenty of fuel for our humor. AudioDoctor 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said: Thats all the stuff that is processing in the background while music is playing... Is there any reason it can't be done at some other time? Roon backups won’t run if audio is playing. Seems like the logic is there, but not used during other operations. AudioDoctor 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted July 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2021 My one major gripe with Roon is the support. Nobody likes software issues or bugs, but stuff happens and that’s OK. But, support is very important to me. If something doesn’t work, a cursory forum response 10 days later isn’t acceptable. It would be nice if there was a premium support option. I know that may irk some people, and I totally understand, but I’d take it if offered. mjb, MikeyFresh and miguelito 1 2 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted July 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, AudioDoctor said: I'm not even sure that would tempt me back at this point. I am pretty fed up with it. Understood completely. I’m overlooking several issues that bug me, but I’ve come to accept them from the Roon team. They have their way of running their company, and I guess it’s take it or leave it. Competition is good. We need more competition. Foggie, AudioDoctor and k6davis 3 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 hours ago, AudioDoctor said: Chris, I appreciate you posting this so that it doesn't look like I am the sole crazy person experiencing a problem no one else is. Here was my attempt to get help from Roon for this same issue, using the official support forum. I’m not one of those guys who likes to use unofficial channels, so I don’t. Roon response took 24 days. https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-restart-casing-100-cpu-utilization/159544 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, lucretius said: It looks like Roon staff responded on June 10th but you have not responded back? After nearly a month, I wasn’t willing to do the try this, try that dance. AudioDoctor and botrytis 2 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 8 hours ago, lucretius said: Apparently, Bob Stuart is listed in the credits for Roon: He helped the company quite a bit back in the day. botrytis 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2021 30 minutes ago, miguelito said: I don't want it to happen, but I fear it will. Tidal has (purportedly) 3m users, Qobuz has say 200k. Roon has about 100k. So a small fraction of Tidal and Qobuz users are Roon users, which means by and large the vast majority of those users use the native apps. For those users, switching to Apple Music is not a big change, and at 1/2 the cost at least (I actually get Apple Music free with my phone plan). So when you do that math you realize Tidal and Qobuz are at high risk of losing a large number of subscribers. If Tidal and Qobuz fold, and without Apple Music integration in Roon, Roon will be much less useful to me, frankly. Roon could just offer it’s own native streaming service, rebranded from a white label service. lucretius, Pappy Boyington and R1200CL 3 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, miguelito said: Ok that's very interesting. Here's one option - https://www.7digital.com/music-platform-as-a-service/ SimoneF, AudioDoctor and miguelito 1 2 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2021 Much more likely to happen is Roon getting acquired by a company that already has a streaming service. lucretius and AudioDoctor 2 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 hours ago, AudioDoctor said: I turned on Roon to listen to streaming radio through the house and I get an advertisement. I tolerate this in my email because I have a junk filter, but I didn't pay for the software to have ads pushed to the Roon interface. edit: This offer was in my email as well. Wow. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, miguelito said: To be honest, $500 is not enough to try and figure it out. I would prob consider a $350 headphone and a $150 dongle DAC if I really cared. That sounds like an interesting topic for another discussion. What would people do with $500 / $1,000 / $2,000 to get the best sound etc… miguelito 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 What if a music server company played an audio ad for a special deal, when you attempted to play a song? People would be up in arms. Seems pretty similar to Roon displaying an ad for its own hardware. AudioDoctor 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted July 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, charlesphoto said: C'mon. It's one click to make it disappear. Not that big of a deal considering it takes numerous clicks to do anything or go anywhere in the app, often when one click could/should suffice. That said, I would hope they limit it to once or twice a year. Not sure at this point who in their right mind would even buy a Nucleus though. Doesn't seem like the smartest investment considering it's just a repackaged NUC. One can get a pretty screaming computer for $1600 or $2600. It’s only one click to send a spam call to voice mail :~) AudioDoctor and Jud 2 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, R1200CL said: Meaning ? That’s an excessive use of CPU. AudioDoctor 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
Popular Post The Computer Audiophile Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said: While music was playing no less. It couldn't have done whatever it was doing over night? If music is playing, then don't do shit. if music isn't playing, then do whatever it wants. There, I wrote the simple if/then statement :~) 4est, wdw, AudioDoctor and 1 other 1 3 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said: The result isn't awful. But still ridiculous that it can’t run on the same machine, given your machine could run NASA in 1970 (it’s powerful as hell). AudioDoctor 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Just now, AudioDoctor said: 10,000 simultaneous Moon missions. Can't run Roon and HQP at the same time. Totally. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 This afternoon I have Roon sending audio to my outdoor zones (full article coming soon) and the music stops every few tracks. So annoying. I switched to another app sending audio to the same zones, not a single stoppage for hours. Switched back to Roon, stoppages every few songs. So annoying. Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said: Yeah, I have audio stoppage periodically even after switching Roon to a different machine... It says it lost contact with the audio device. I'm not sure why, everything has a fixed IP on my network. I can monitor my network, there is no egregious intermittent users, and everything, save Roon, just flows around normally. I’ve never had a single issue with HQP and NAA endpoints. Just RAAT and UPnP (the most nonstandard standard). Jud 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, AudioDoctor said: I'll Venmo you a dollar to post this on the Roon forum, and 100 dollars if someone blames something other than your network. I made the mistake of doing this once. Despite the fact that everything else works perfectly wasn't reason enough to suspect that the one thing that doesn't work must be the thing with the problem. Even to the point of someone from Roon saying that well, Roon is different so you have to change your entire network for Roon. NO. edit: Just imagine if you went to the Dr and said Doc, my finger is broken and it's not working like all my other fingers. And instead of fixing that one finger, he broke all the others to match... I totally hear ya. I’m OK if Roon works differently. However, then Roon needs to tell people what to do to make it work rather than just say “it’s your network.” Then I can make the decision if it’s worth it. As it is now, Roon is the only app with a problem. If Roon said “You have to do XYZ on your network to make it work.” Then I’d at least know the pros/cons costs/benefits. Just saying it’s somebody’s network, even though everything else works great including other audio apps, is a bit tough for customers. AudioDoctor 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
The Computer Audiophile Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Now instead of losing control of the audio device, Roon is saying the NAS is offline. It isn't. I have a constant ping to it and it's response time hasn't gone above 0.4ms, and none of my other SMB connections to the NAS from other devices have been effected. Playback cruising along, then just stops. This seems familiar. happybob 1 Founder of Audiophile Style | My Audio Systems Link to comment
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