I have had it with Roon, their lack of support, their user forum, and it's users...

[bobfa]

8 hours ago, austinpop said:

 

I accept my lifetime subscription is a sunk cost, but I do use Roon for noncritical listening and music discovery on Qobuz. Their UI and UX are excellent. Pity about the SQ.

I have been testing different OS variants and MPD + UPNP and more.  They all sound better than Roon.  Some of the control point apps are “funky”!

 

I have played with Lumin a bit and it is pretty nice.  I think I might have found a home in Aurender.  I  will have a post up shortly on some of my findings.  

 

At least with the Linux variants you have some more control of your world!!

[bobfa]

1 minute ago, R1200CL said:

 

Did you test with Linux / Sonicobiter/ ROCK ?

My recent listening is with audiolinux and Euphony.  I have a ROCK server and it is "soft and mushy".   I have not used Sonic Orbiter in a couple of years.  

 

I have also been testing with my Melco N1Z using MinimServer and it is right up there! (commercial product).  

 

I have been using MPD UPNP, Minim Server, etc.    I have fussed with an iPad direct,  Stuff on the M1 MacBook Air.  A very long dance.

 

RJF

 

 

[bobfa]

10 hours ago, austinpop said:

In defense of @AudioDoctor

 

 

There's no point in debating the why's and the how's. Just compare Roon with other options for yourself. If you don't hear a difference, be happy!

My journey is following along the trail blazed by @austinpop.  

• Squeezelite was a first step
• Then a mix of AudioLinux, Euphony and more AudioLinux
• I built several hardware systems.  I had a custom server built for me.
• Now I am back to LMS and Squeezelite on Raspberry Pi.  (BOB IS HAPPY)

 

I have recently had an interesting experience helping a friend with his Antipodes DX2 3.1 software update.  I have never heard Roon sound so good.  His whole family was amazed.

[bobfa]

19 minutes ago, austinpop said:

In the case of the Antipodes server, while I personally have not experienced one, I have friends with K30 and K50 units. What they've told me is that the new 3.1 software update both enabled or refreshed other software players. They seem to be liking both MPD (yeah, old school!) and LMS/Squeezelite for SQ. It might be interesting to compare Roon on the DX2/3.1 with these other players to see what your friend thinks.

I am hoping to have a K50 in here soon.  It has AES out for my system design!  I will write about it.

[bobfa]

2 hours ago, AudioDoctor said:

I still have a lifetime license, and Roon on one system here in the house so I updated it to the latest release so I could see if they made it any better. Now I am 100% unable to play any music at all with it. Upon hitting play I am instantly greeted with a message that says, "Roon has lost control of the audio device."

 

Great update guys...

 

So, for my girls, does anyone have a fix for this? I couldn't seem to find anything relevant and recent on the Roon forum after a search.

I have had this happen.  I have removed all the endpoints and then power the core all the way down.  Bring it back up and re-add the endpoints.  That has worked for me before.   What OS is the core on?  At one point with AudioLinux I could never get it back again without a re-install of the OS.  That was one of my final straws.  

 

That also prompted one of my rules.

 

• Software is the king of sound quality.  It breaks sound quality by just being there.  The less software, the better.  (a bit overstated??)