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AfterDark. Project ClayX Constellation SFP+ Module for Audiophile - Can not get it to work


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7 hours ago, Martin Herløv Andersen said:

 

There are no connection to the internet and I can't see my NUC on the network.

Can you describe your network. Especially the fiber optical part. Your router hasn’t any optical interface, so that information isn’t helpful. 

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7 hours ago, Martin Herløv Andersen said:

 

After a good night's sleep I tried it again, two times. Still no connection.

But I thank you for taking the time to help me.


Are you able as a test to attach the FMC somewhere else than the Edgerouter ?

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11 hours ago, Martin Herløv Andersen said:

 

RJ45 plug on wall > EdageRouter X > SPF converter > Uptone ER > NUC > DAC

 

Tomorrow I will upgrade the firmware for my router, thanks for the link

But what’s upfront that RJ45 in the wall ? There must be something. 

Did you try connect both EtherRegen and also the FMC to that wall RJ45 ? (Bypassing your router). 

 

How can you be sure there isn’t any router upfront that wall plug ?

Does your router show you’re having a public IP ?

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The picture above shows a working link. Compared to the not working device, I predict the error is related on the fiber side. 
 

Read here as well. 
https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/1135/

 

And here:

https://www.sopto.com.cn/sp_news/show-3509.html

 

1000M:Lit when the electrical link speed is 1000Mbps.

100MLit when the electrical link speed is 100MbpsOff when the electrical link speed is 10Mbps.

FX Link/ACTLit when the fiber port connection with remote device is goodBlinks when data is transmitting.

TX Link/ACTLit when the RJ45 connection with remote device is good;Blinks when data is transmitting.

PWRLit when DC5V power is on.

FDXLit when full-duplex mode is active on SFP.

When the fiber media converter is operating normally, PWR power indicator must be lit, FX-LINK / ACT fiber link indicator, TX-LINK / ACT network link pilot lights steady or flashing, if the LINK / ACT light does not , you should to check whether the corresponding link is connected normally.


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The EtherRegen user guide is here:

EtherREGEN_User_Guide.pdf?90

 

As there isn’t any lights for fiber on the EtherRegen, you will have to use the other ports as a guide to tell you what’s going on. 
 

EtherREGEN LEDs:
The green LED at left of the EtherREGEN’s DC input jack indicates that the switch is receiving power. There are two small LED indicators above each of the unit’s RJ45 Ethernet ports. The meaning of the colors and activity with cable connections are different for the four Gigabit-capable ‘A’-side ports than for the lone 100Mbps ‘B’-side port, as follows:

‘A’ Side
Flashing yellow = Gigabit link with network activity
Flashing green = 100Mbps link with network activity
Solid LED (yellow or green) = Link established but no network activity
‘B’ Side (100Mbps only)
Solid or Flashing green = Network activity
Solid yellow = Network link established (should stay on all the time when a ‘B’-side connection is made)

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My best guess is exchanging the FMC, the cable, one or both of the modules. I think the error may be related to one of those.

 

In theory you could have a non working SFP cage on the EtherRegen, but's highly unlikely. 

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https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0660/6121/files/EtherREGEN_User_Guide.pdf?90
To late to edit. Correct link above. 
 

One possible way to solve this is to purchase this item

https://www.komplett.dk/product/898813/hardware/netvaerk/routere/ubiquiti-edgerouter-x-sfp#


Maybe add the DKR 199 cable you find here

This one:

https://www.komplett.dk/product/1147774/hardware/netvaerk/netvaerk/ubiquiti-udc-1-sfp-kabel

Just for testing purposes. 
 

I’m quite sure that website has a very good return policy. (The Norwegian version has). 
This is a way to assure you that the no-name FMC you got from @AfterDark. is broken, and he will give you a full refund, without you having to return the FMC. 
Hopefully the modules and cable is good. 
 

As the cable is less than $20 for him, you may ask him to send you a cable in any case. 
 

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5 hours ago, Martin Herløv Andersen said:

By the way, it looks like the converter are not connected / recognized by my router.

I have tried to configure it using the config dialog. Have tried 100/full, 100/half and auto

I expect your router is 1GB ? Please confirm. (My understanding is that it is). This is important as the FMC may not support lower speed. 
However I’m leaning towards a bad fiber cable, if your router is configured correctly. I expect you to read the router’s manual properly. You have of cause tested other RJ45 cables ?

Is DHCP enabled ?

 

I suggested purchasing items at https://www.komplett.dk/ or similar with good return policy. I think if you haven’t done your homework, the only thing you can expect from Adrian now is a new cable.

 

Du kan sende meg en PM, om du tror jeg kan bidra mere. Jeg hjelper deg gjerne. 
 

 


https://audiophilestyle.com/search/?q=Edgerouter&updated_after=any&sortby=newest

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12 minutes ago, Martin Herløv Andersen said:

The ER works with the cable and the SFP converter also works with the cable, same goes without the converter using the new router with build in SFP.

Does the yellow cable work ?

(if not, have Adrian send you a new cable). 

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3 minutes ago, Martin Herløv Andersen said:

I don't know the cable I bought has LC connections on them

The point is to use the yellow cable with the modules you got between devices and test. 
 

You now have understood that the FMC is working. 
 

Place the cable between new router and EtherRegen. 

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25 minutes ago, Martin Herløv Andersen said:

But on the bright side we now know what's working

  • The LC slots (ER, Router, Converter)
  • SFP+ modules
  • Properly the Converter work with the LC

 

How do you know the SFP+ modules from AfterDark is working?

So now you have an FMC for sale ? 😂

And a router?

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9 minutes ago, Martin Herløv Andersen said:

 

I don't 😊 what I meant to say was that the ER and converter works with SFP+ modules. The ones on the cable I bought from komplett.dk

You definitely need a new yellow cable. There is a slight chance that router isn’t compatible with the Finisar modules. Please check documentation and ask the manufacturer in addition. 
 

https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/204959574-EdgeRouter-SFP-SFP-and-DAC-Compatibility-List


Insert the module into the router and open the website for router. You should see right away if the module is accepted. 


In any case you know for sure the FMC is working.

 

Anyone having same router and modules that can confirm it’s working ?

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17 minutes ago, Martin Herløv Andersen said:

Don't think so. I use the converter box I bought from Afterdark and as I wrote I sure hope he has tested it with the Finisar modules

We know they’re working there. We don’t know for 100% it’s working with that router. Did you understand what I asked you to test ? Results in webinerface ?

 

Again. Adrian should send you a new cable. 
Was it 15 meters ?

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/392275302479?hash=item5b556e184f:g:wOsAAOSw-l9crEQ~
 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/392275293505?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

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12 minutes ago, Martin Herløv Andersen said:

But I am not connecting the SFP cable to the router.

Then that purchase was a total waste. The idea was to bypass that FMC. The new router is by design a much better device. As it’s a 10GB fiber interface.  That FMC is only 1GB. (Worse specs). 
I’m actually a bit surprised it works with EtherRegen using a 10GB interface. 

 

12 minutes ago, Martin Herløv Andersen said:

The first think I tested was the yellow cable connected to the new Edge router with SFP and in the other end the ER.

 

Yes, that’s what was my idea. With yellow cable. 

 

12 minutes ago, Martin Herløv Andersen said:

Then the Ubiquiti UDC-1 SFP+ kabel connected to the ER and the new router. That was working.

Not a surprise at all. 
 

So far you only have verified that your AfterDark cable isn’t working. And the FMC is. 

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8 minutes ago, Martin Herløv Andersen said:

Hi is this the same kind of cable the I bought from Adrian? Will use it for testing

Yes. Blue connectors and yellow cable that’s what you want. Always. You will have it by tomorrow. Good. Cheap. 
 

(https://www.computersalg.dk/i/6638006/mikrotik-cloud-smart-switch-css610-8g-2s-in-switch-smart-8-x-10-100-1000-2-x-10-gigabit-sfp-desktop-monterbar-på-stativ in case you want a switch/FMC. This one present have an issue with 10GB to 1GB fiber).

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