Article: Introducing Hang Loose Convolver From Accurate Sound

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I'm a big Fan of Mitch's work currently using Audiolense room correction filters he developed for me to use in HQplayer . I see Hang Loose as a big step forward in the evolution of digital processing implementation so looking forward to exploring how it might fit into my system. I applaud Mitch's efforts to simplify the implementation of convolution for the non-geeks. One thing I need to look at, does Hang Loose offer enough things I can't do with the way I'm implementing convolution in HQP to make me try it?

 

My initial question is ,, where does Hang Loose  grab the digital stream? I see Hang Loose is limited to 384K and the Mac pass through is limited to 192K, didn't see what the Windows limit is. For those of us who up-sample to the max rate of our DAC, will Hang Loose limit that ability? Like I said, I use convolution in HQP which does the convolution at the file's native rate and then HQP  up-samples to 16FS.  If Hang loose grabs the stream before it is up-sampled it will work for me as I have no files above a native rate of 192K. Obviously if Hang Loose grabs it after HQP it won't. For those using PGGB to up-sample files to 16-32FS before playback it is a nonstarter.

 

For those using Pure Music or Pure Vinyl software on a Mac which can accept AU and not VST,  the availability of AU plugins is a big +. 

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33 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

The high thing missing has always been the ability for an app that supports Qobuz or Tidal to use convolution while sending audio out via DLNA to a DAC / endpoint. Now we can do this by using the HLC convolver VST3 plugin for I

 

I'm a bit confused.. There are a variety of VST convolver plugins. I even found an old AU convolver plug to use with Pure Music on my Mac  that was a bit awkward to use but worked. Was it not possible to use any of these VST plug ins before HLC?

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4 hours ago, mitchco said:

As far as I know, HQP does not support VST3 plugins. 

 

correct, I would consider HQP to be a plugin in the sense that it integrates with roon and other audio players and adds it's own set of capabilities, upsampling to many different rates and bit depths with a variety of filters as well as having built in convolution capabilities accepting impulse files for EQ. Also a stand alone player.  That is a very poor explanation of all it does but hopefully you get the idea.

 

 

4 hours ago, mitchco said:

So currently the digital stream for HLC is after the HQP upsample.

 

this will be a severe limitation for some. If I understand correctly, the pipeline you need to get the stream into HLC is limited to 192K so if it comes after upsampling and before HLC doesn't that limit the max rate to 192K? I'm not convinced that going higher really makes much difference, but some here are convinced that 16-32FS is essential for getting the best out of their DACs. 

 

I know this is a work in progress so I'm sure if the demand is there the need will eventually get met

 

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4 hours ago, Confused said:

In an ideal world I would be able to switch filters remotely using an iPhone or iPad as a remote, but I don't think this is possible.

 

any computer can be controlled by any other computer, tablet, or phone using VNC, You install a VNC server on the computer you want to control and then a VNC viewer also called a client on the controlling device(s). I use Screens but there are a variety of VNC options, some free and some paid, RealVNC, Teamviewer and on and on. If you are using Macs they have a built in option for screen sharing that works very well. 

 

Here's a link to give you the general idea but like I said, there are a variety of programs

 

https://help.realvnc.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003474552-How-do-I-get-started-with-VNC-Connect-on-Windows-and-Mac-

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57 minutes ago, R1200CL said:

6 hours ago, Confused said:

My PC is located maybe 3 or 4 meters behind my listening position.  In an ideal world I would be able to switch filters remotely using an iPhone or iPad as a remote, but I don't think this is possible.

https://apps.apple.com/no/app/microsoft-eksternt-skrivebord/id714464092?l=nb
 

https://apps.apple.com/no/app/remote-desktop-rdp/id288362053?l=nb

 

Windows Remote Desktop only works if you have the Pro edition of Windows which is a  relatively expensive upgrade. There are a variety of free VNC solutions