Audirvana Studio

[PunkRockDoc]

awesome!  Thanks!

[AudioDoctor]

1 minute ago, PunkRockDoc said:

awesome!  Thanks!

 

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[PunkRockDoc]

Oh cool, thank you!  It looks pretty cool.  I have been trying to find a program that only syncs files I have changed without scanning everything else in my music folder each time.  I will definitely do the free trial for this, I like the split pane view a lot

[stefano_mbp]

@PunkRockDoc you could try FreeFileSync too, very simple and effective and free

https://freefilesync.org

[Musicophile]

Any news on the remote app anywhere?

[lucretius]

Annual subscription price in Canada is CAD $106.99, which is $83.64 USD (not $69.99 as it is for the US).  Studio is no bargain for Canadians.

[pl_svn]

7 minutes ago, lucretius said:

Annual subscription price in Canada is CAD $106.99, which is $83.64 USD (not $69.99 as it is for the US)

 

I believe original price is in Euros and gets converted to local currencies

if US price actually is $69.99/y... then it's unfair for europeans too 😶

 

[The Computer Audiophile]

Are taxes added?

[pl_svn]

right: I always forget US prices are taxes excluded 🙄

[The Computer Audiophile]

4 minutes ago, pl_svn said:

right: I always forget US prices are taxes excluded 🙄

Cause we likely don’t have any on this purchase. 

[lucretius]

29 minutes ago, The Computer Audiophile said:

Are taxes added?

Not in Canada -- no taxes-- foreign vendor not required to collect Canadian Taxes; like US prices, Canadian prices are taxes excluded.  Maybe Audirvana mistakenly included the (French) VAT taxes in the Canadian price?

[The Computer Audiophile]

Interesting. I doubt Damien wants to gouge users in specific countries. Perhaps there are transactions fees for him based on the country or other factors. 

[jvlata]

Here in Chile AS is US$49.99 for one year plus local taxes..

[bnbayer]

There's no reason for Audirvana to have a Canadian price, or any other currency but their own. Our credit cards can deal with the exchange. They take a cut, of course (it's business), but they'll charge $20 less than the Audirvana price. And Audirvana won't have to worry about currency fluctuations.

 

They should have a VAT-free price for export markets.

[PunkRockDoc]

10 hours ago, stefano_mbp said:

@PunkRockDoc you could try FreeFileSync too, very simple and effective and free

https://freefilesync.org

Ok, that sounds promising.  thanks for the suggestion!  I purchased ChronoSync a while back and it doesn't do what I need it to do.  The Realtime Sync is more what I am looking for.  

 

After maybe initially scanning my music library on my Mac and on my server, I want it to only sync the files that get changed without rescanning the whole library every time it syncs.  I dont want to throw this thread off topic but if anyone has any recommendations on how to basically keep two music collections mirrored in this way please pm me.  Thanks!

[Jud]

26 minutes ago, PunkRockDoc said:

Ok, that sounds promising.  thanks for the suggestion!  I purchased ChronoSync a while back and it doesn't do what I need it to do.  The Realtime Sync is more what I am looking for.  

 

After maybe initially scanning my music library on my Mac and on my server, I want it to only sync the files that get changed without rescanning the whole library every time it syncs.  I dont want to throw this thread off topic but if anyone has any recommendations on how to basically keep two music collections mirrored in this way please pm me.  Thanks!

 

Interesting, when I skimmed what you wrote, I thought "Chronosync could do that." I probably just wasn't paying close enough attention. What do you need done that it won't do?

[aaron8489]

After waiting two days for the analysis (w/o metadata) to complete, I clicked on "Artists" under local.  After about 10 minutes with the spinning wheel of fate, the artists finally came up (I am using a Mac Mini with M1). Then, I tried to scroll down a page, and the spinning wheel was back.  After another ten minutes, I gave up.  I don't have a huge local library (about 100,000 tracks).

 

I was really looking forward to Studio as an alternative to Roon, but Roon is so far ahead of Studio, I can't see subscribing.  I have used Audirvana for at least 5 years and find the sound to be somewhat better than what I get from Roon, but not that much.  I actually think Audirvana was best before 3.5 (when it was more like JRiver in format and simplicity), but at least 3.5 is usable.

 

I hope these issues can be worked out.  I'd hate to see Audirvana fail.  Competition is good.

[RunHomeSlow]

100 000 tracks is huge!!

Come on, like 7000 albums !!

[Jud]

7 minutes ago, RunHomeSlow said:

100 000 tracks is huge!!

Come on, like 7000 albums !!

 

It is, but it also unfortunately means Studio isn't usable yet for him.

 

I imagine if 3.5 and prior can cope with that number of tracks, Studio will be able to also. Just a matter of when.

 

It's also a sign of how much change there has actually been from 3.5 to Studio. Perhaps Roon still does what it does because it hasn't changed so much.

[aaron8489]

20 minutes ago, RunHomeSlow said:

100 000 tracks is huge!!

Come on, like 7000 albums !!

Not really that large.  I have no problem with Roon, Audirvana 3.5 and JRiver.

[Mike Rubin]

I am trying the 30-day tire kick.  I could be the dumb bunny here, but I can't figure out why my library and playlists didn't copy over.  The library is no big deal, because I was able to reconstruct it, but I can't figure out how the playlist editor is supposed to work or where playlists even display, so I haven't been able to replace my old ones. (Doesn't look like there's a place for them in the lefthand side menu area.

 

Any tips for me?

[RickB68]

3 hours ago, Mike Rubin said:

I am trying the 30-day tire kick.  I could be the dumb bunny here, but I can't figure out why my library and playlists didn't copy over.  The library is no big deal, because I was able to reconstruct it, but I can't figure out how the playlist editor is supposed to work or where playlists even display, so I haven't been able to replace my old ones. (Doesn't look like there's a place for them in the lefthand side menu area.

 

Any tips for me?

 

Near the top center left of the app, look for these icons. Click the third one from the left and you should see your playlists, if they transferred over.

[Mike Rubin]

2 hours ago, RickB68 said:

 

Near the top center left of the app, look for these icons. Click the third one from the left and you should see your playlists, if they transferred over.

Thanks.  Indeed, that is where I find the editor, but none of my playlists transferred over.  Further, when I try to create a smartlist in the editor, e.g., all tracks whose titles contain "Maiden Voyage," I can't get that filter to pull up any results.  (Not only do I have tracks with that title, I also have a functional smartlist with the same criterion in 3.5.)  Putting aside that it is dumbfuck UX to bury the playlist display at the bottom of the pop-up editor pane rather than visible on a menu, I am finding it impossible to create a smartlist that populates.  There's obviously something amiss  in my setup because I can't believe that Studio got out of beta without this basic functionality.

 

I should add that Studio hasn't finished analyzing my 165k local files and I haven't enabled writing of recovered metadata to the local files.  Maybe that's germane and maybe it isn't.

 

I next will try to create playlists from specific files rather than smart playlists.  Perhaps those will populate and play as expected.

[Mike Rubin]

6 minutes ago, Mike Rubin said:

 

I next will try to create playlists from specific files rather than smart playlists.  Perhaps those will populate and play as expected.

Clearly, I lack the intelligence even to do that.  The so-called editor allows me to add an image file and key words, but has no place to add the files, whether by dragging and dropping or by browsing to them in the file tree.  I also don't see a way to add imported tracks to a playlist by clicking on a dialogue box where they display in Studio.

 

I don't remember having this kind of trouble with 3.5 (or, for that matter, with any of the dozens of music management and control apps that I have used or tried over the years).  

 

Again, I know this is on me. I can't believe that anyone would release a product like this without this basic functionality enabled.

[Mike Rubin]

Okay, finally got a smart playlist up and running.  It took so long for the list to populate that I didn't think anything was happening even though something was, so it must have been a resource issue.  That's a bit surprising to me because the computer is a desktop Dell XPS 2020 model i7 with 32 gb RAM and a 1 tb NVME ssd that always has been up to any task that I have asked of it.  In any event, I am reconstructing my playlists as quickly as Studio will allow it.