Audirvana Studio

[stefano_mbp]

27 minutes ago, Musicophile said:

Totally unacceptable

Audirvana has always, at least since version 3.2, changed the metadata of the files.
This happens to insert the Replay Gain data, moreover, if you use the Audirvana metadata editor, it also arbitrarily returns the data present in Soloists, Conductor, Orchestra in the Artist tag.
I asked Damien the reason for these arbitrary changes and he replied that those too were artists ...
I have since stopped using Audirvana's internal editor.
I agree that the arbitrary updating of the metadata of your files is absolutely unacceptable

[stefano_mbp]

@PunkRockDoc you could try FreeFileSync too, very simple and effective and free

https://freefilesync.org

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I think it should be better to post any Remote issue here

https://community.audirvana.com/t/audirvana-studio-ios-remote-app-available/27494

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6 hours ago, feelingears said:

UPnP/DLNA has been cited as being inferior to other streams, and typically a reviewer of some hardware waves away the software issue by saying, "well I use Roon" so the rest of the review is based on that

… do you really trust reviewers so much …. ? Try it yourself … you could be surprised.

When I was using Audirvana a really big improvement in SQ was when UPNP was introduced giving the option to decouple the dac from the Mac/pc.

i have been using upnp for at least 5 years and never had any issue.

… and plus with AirPlay you loose HiRes.

 

[stefano_mbp]

@biosailor I’ve been using MPD/Upmpdcli till few months ago, don’t use Audirvana anymore as I prefer Minimserver as library server.

My setup was Minimserver/Bubbleupnpserver-> Lumïn app -> RoPieeeXL-MPD and everything worked without any issue.

Now I’m using HQPlayer Embedded taking advantage of its ability to use UPNP.

My current setup is

Minimserver/Bubbleupnpserver -> Lumïn app -> HQPlayer Embedded -> RoPieeeXL as NAA.

Cannot be sure but I suspect that the UPNP issues with Audirvana are on Audirvana side … RoPieeeXL is in my experience rock solid

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On 1/19/2022 at 9:30 PM, Dandou said:

There are plenty of threads on Audirvana forum that prove it.

I can say that Audirvana do transcode pcm files (flac, aiff, Alac …) to wav before sending them to the network device, bit perfect or not depends on upsampling rules defined in Audirvana

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21 minutes ago, jos said:

I did pony up 40 euro's for the Asset UPnP app.

Just for curiosity
Did you compare Asset with Minimserver?
Why did you favor Asset and what didn't you like in Minimserver?

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@jos Unlike you, I am a great Minimserver admirer, a matter of taste.

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15 hours ago, cpvniii said:

Is the AS remote now available? I do not see it on the APP STORE (os)

It is definitely there … search Audirvana 

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@bobbmd Audirvana no longer responds in this forum, you should ask for support on their community forum

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8 minutes ago, bobbmd said:

Audirvana Studio thread

I meant here

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5 minutes ago, steveoat said:

but when I click on play, I get the following error message: "Error Starting Playback Device"

Before trying to play from Audirvana check on the HQPe main screen if it is in Pause or Stop … should be in Stop status

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18 minutes ago, steveoat said:

Stefano.  I checked and HQPe is in stop status.  Just tried audirvana again, and same issue.  By the way, I am having a similar issue with JPlay IOS.  HQPe is recognized but when I try to play something, I am getting a similar error.  What's weird is that I am having zero problems with Roon using HQPe

… last time I tried Audirvana (3.5, not Origin or Studio) with HQPe around one year ago and it worked …

About JPlay it works fine with these settings 

 

 

[stefano_mbp]

1 minute ago, steveoat said:

I am using HQPE OS

Me too, I’m on 4.34.1 version, which is yours?

… try to swipe off JPlay and relaunch it

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1 minute ago, steveoat said:

If you put in the HQPe configuration page URL, it says it is not valid or supported

You must set it as follows:

http://hqplayer.local:8088

[stefano_mbp]

@steveoat … it’s playing fine here just now … which is your HQPe configuration?

 

[stefano_mbp]

@steveoat all seems correct … do you have the license or are you on trial?

If on trial remember that HQPe works for 30’ then you need to restart it

[stefano_mbp]

2 minutes ago, steveoat said:

I just checked and program is licensed to me.  

All very strange and not sure what next steps are.

Are HQPe, Audirvana and your iPhone/iPad on the very same subnet

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1 minute ago, steveoat said:

Whats confusing is that Roon is working

Can you try to shutdown Roon?

[stefano_mbp]

1 minute ago, steveoat said:

Tried this and still no luck.

I’ve no more ideas … sorry

[stefano_mbp]

6 hours ago, davide256 said:

With Audirvarna/HQPe up-sampling  DSD 64 works fine but for DSD128/256  I have to lower the oversampling and modulator settings to avoid

frequent pauses vs what works fine using Linn UPnP control point for HQPe.

The first thing that comes to mind is that Audirvana transcode to wav before sending the file to UPNP renderer then there could be a throughput issue depending on which kind of Ethernet cable you’re using (cat5/6/6a).

Second thing is where Audirvana is running on (Windows or macOS) and what cpu is on that pc.

Third, Audirvana is quite heavy on cpu and takes a long time indexing the library, was this process ended before you tried to play to HQPe?

Finally, what pc are you running HQPe on and are you using HQPlayer OS or Ubuntu/HQPlayer?

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I’ve tried in the past this configuration running Audirvana (3.5.x) on my MacBook Pro i7/16GB ram late 2011 and didn’t find any issue with HQPe, it works fine like using Minimserver/Bubbleupnpserver -> Linn/Lumïn app -> HQPe

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5 minutes ago, Jud said:

I’m guessing that running both simultaneously is enough of an extra load that it’s responsible for what you’re experiencing

They can’t as Audirvana is Windows/macOS only while HQPe is Linux only …

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24 minutes ago, davide256 said:

The HQPe OS machine is admittedly a little under-powered, an 11i3 NUC

I run HQPe OS on a very similar pc, its a Nuc10i3 with 16GB ram and I can do

• DSD128 with ECV2 modulators using poly-sinc-gauss-long (1x) and poly-sinc-hires-lp (Nx)
• up to DSD512 with same filters but ASDM5/7 modulators 

I fired up just few minutes ago Audirvana 3.5 on my MacBook and it is playing now without any issue a 24/48 album to HQPe which is upsampling to DSD512/ASDM5 with the filters I described above. My archive is on thunderbolt connected hdd to the MacBook.

As you have the archive on a nas there could be a throughput issue as Audirvana need to get the file and then send it to HQPe.

Can you try to copy a single album on the same pc where Audirvana is running and see if the issue is still there or not?

… still playing without issues … its the third track …

 

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6 hours ago, davide256 said:

still can't do poly-sinc-gauss-xla

with any modulator at 128 or faster but can now do all the modulators

with poly-sinc-gauss or poly-sinc-gaus-hires-xx and have been able to do DSD256 with Mojo using the  DSD256 modulators

Gauss-xla is quite heavy anyway I can use it as 1x filter up to DSD128 with ASDM7ECV2.

You can try the -2s family filters, they are lighter than corrispondent filters not ending with -2s, using them I can do DSD256 using ASDM5/7EC.

.

If you’re not interested in Tidal/Qobuz streaming you could have a look to

• Audirvana Origin - lifetime fee and no annual subscription 
• JRiver Mediacenter - lifetime fee - runs on Windows/macOS/Linux ( Ubuntu, Debian)

[stefano_mbp]

15 minutes ago, davide256 said:

JRiver IME will hit you at least once a year

with an upgrade fee if you want to stay on current version

Don’t want to force you in any direction but just to say that there is no need to update every year, I still run Version 26 and it works fine

17 minutes ago, davide256 said:

And JRiver requires some kind of hobbyist script to get it to work with HQP. I won't use something thats sketchy for support

It works “out of the box”, just like Audirvana.

Maybe you’re referring to some posts that appeared many years ago that explained how to get HQP Desktop working with JRiver, but using HQPe you have just to activate in JIver the DLNA Controller function, that’s all.