BCRich Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Smaragdhk said: I have buffer track to RAM disabled but how does one enable cache to drive? It’s in Settings > Library > Miscellaneous > Use Cache Enjoy….Mike Smaragdhk 1 My System: https://audiophilestyle.com/profile/9256-bcrich/?tab=field_core_pfield_3 Link to comment
davide256 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 6 hours ago, Smaragdhk said: I have buffer track to RAM disabled but how does one enable cache to drive? its a disk attribute, look under settings> library > miscellaneous. If you are using PGGB this is really helpful because a single CD at 768/24 is ~10GB and with the FEMTO drive its large enough that favorites are often already cached. Smaragdhk 1 Regards, Dave Audio system Link to comment
Dev Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 So I received my Femto drive this week from @darkforce It was packaged well and arrived safely. Like many, I have been using a Optane 110Gb for the primary OS drive. The Asus ROG Z490 doesn't have a direct CPU M.2 slot and hence I am forced to use a PCIe to M.2 adapter to go CPU direct. I find it sounds slight better (but not much) and coherent than using the M.2 slots which connects to the Z490 chip (aka PCH). The music are on two 2Tb M.2 drives and they are connected to the onboard M.2 slots and this connects via Z490. Cloning Windows 10 was a pita and had few quirks with the boot that I was able to quickly resolve. Right now I am burning in and it has about 24hrs. Powering it via motherboard for the time being and then I will get into externally powering it with some LPS that I have in my arsenal. Initial impression is very positive - it seems to take out the digital hash. The problem is you never know it exist until its removed. The same thing happened when I installed the Taiko DC-ATX for the first time. As with everything, especially digital, it take a while for the components to settle down. Will update my findings when I have some running hrs on it...but so far, I am positive! ASRMichael 1 Link to comment
Patatorz Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Just received mine, very quick. Installed and running with power supply of the MB and on a M2 slot. Let’s burn and see a bit later. MarcelNL 1 Blog / Forum Link to comment
MarcelNL Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I'd listen to it straight away, and make a comparison now AND later ;-) It's too good to miss out on it until it reaches it's full potential IMO. Patatorz 1 ISP, glass to Fritz!box 5530, another Fritz!box 5530 for audio only in bridged mode on LPS, cat8.1, Zyxel switch on LPS, Finisar <1475BTL>Solarflare X2522-25G, external wifi AP, AMD 9 16 core, passive cooling ,Aorus Master x570, LPSU with Taiko ATX, 8Gb Apacer RAM, femto SSD on LPS, Pink Faun I2S ultra OCXO on akiko LPS, home grown RJ45 I2S cable, Metrum Adagio DAC3, RCA 70-A and Miyaima Zero for mono, G2 PL519 tube amps. Link to comment
Patatorz Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Sorry, i said it wrong : i'd listen straight forward, ensure burning and will come back on the previous setup later (M2 Samsung 870) MarcelNL 1 Blog / Forum Link to comment
Popular Post NewOldman Posted September 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2021 I've been run mine for about 1000 hours now, and I'm still amazed at how good it sounds the best investment I have done on HDD Patatorz and MarcelNL 2 Link to comment
Popular Post Patatorz Posted September 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2021 Thanks @MarcelNLand @NewOldmanfor your comments. I powered externally yesterday the nvme with the 5V of my HDPlex 500w ATX to start (need to install again the uptone JS2). Already quite happy with the result running Windows 11 as OS. Let’s continue the journey ! MarcelNL and hw90 2 Blog / Forum Link to comment
Popular Post Smaragdhk Posted September 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2021 I have now more than 200 hrs of running in the Femto M.2 drive powered by a Keces P3 LPS. As per recommendation from @darkforce and after trying various LPS I have to agree with him that the P3 has the nicest sound so far. I wanted to share my experience with installing this Femto M.2 SSD drive in my 10i7NUC. From the photos below it will become clear that there wasn’t enough clearance to install the Femto M.2 drive directly into the motherboard of the NUC since it sits upside down in the HDPlex fanless case. Reason being that the NUC’s processor faces up so that the cooling heat sink diverts the heat towards the sides of the case. The P3 is also still running in as we speak and it's using the standard fuse so I may upgrade that later too... I had to use an M.2 extender since there wasn't enough clearance to use the motherboard's M.2 slot on the NUC which faces down in the HDPlex case. Using an ADT-Link branded M.2 extender moved the Femto M.2 drive further away from the motherboard so in a way it has less interference from anything on the motherboard. Femto M.2 drive mounted with isolating double sided tape onto the riser, enough clearance for the power DC connector and in this position away from the heatsink. Note the angled Oyaide connector to supply 5V from the Keces P3. From left to right : IEC power cable for Keces P3, Mad Scientist Audio USB to USB-B (connecting USB from the NUC to my Marantz SA KI-Ruby SACD / DAC streamer, DIY Viablue + Telegartner Cat 8, AudioQuest Pearl 48 HDMI I very much like what I hear! Swapping from mobo power to external LPS is indeed a major step up. Even quieter background and the biggest difference is a big increase in dynamics, more body, better controlled (tighter) bass, and more air around individual instruments and vocals with better detail again. I thought my system running Euphony's Stylus was very good already but I'm hearing new things I haven't heard in very familiar recordings, with an even wider sound stage. I will be very difficult to go back to using the other drives now that I have been "poisoned" by this very sweet and nice sound... I use an additional 2 Keces P8 LPS as well to power my Synology NAS, Linger Audio switch and 10i7 NUC. I use Euphony V3.20210716 without Ramroot, cashing to M.2 system drive enabled. Streaming music from Qobuz, Tidal and from my Synology NAS. davide256, Patatorz, darkforce and 5 others 2 3 3 Link to comment
Popular Post Smaragdhk Posted October 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2021 As discussed with @darkforce in PM this week, users testing this Femto drive (does it have an official name yet?) don't let yourself be discouraged when hearing some less wanted characteristics... the sound to me keeps evolving continuously. After about 250 hours I suddenly started noticing some roll of in the high frequencies... as if the sibilants became a "lisp" in duller recordings and as if a veil floated in the soundstage... I checked what could have caused this but couldn't find any reasons... perhaps I tweaked too much in the Euphony expert settings, such as CPU isolation and max CPU frequency etc. I reset back to default settings, tried Ramroot enabled... got a bit more perceived detail but at the expense of a congested bloated bass and reduced dynamics, oddly enough. So I removed the Ramroot, rebooted a couple of times and set the max CPU frequency back to 1.1GHz (instead of the the default 4.7GHz) and let the system run repeated albums 24hrs a day in the background. And after 350 hours of running I can report back that I'm again hearing that intoxicating detailed, relaxed but dynamic and powerful sound. As if the performers are playing in my listening space... Wondering what will be next :) MarcelNL, NanoSword, Exocer and 3 others 3 2 1 Link to comment
NewOldman Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 agree I'm still amazed by my SSD, How it can improve more and more over time :) Link to comment
MarcelNL Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 it definitely is an amazing SSD, I LOVE how organic it sounds, system is running at max speed 24/7 on passive cooling, and it siunds stupidly good! ISP, glass to Fritz!box 5530, another Fritz!box 5530 for audio only in bridged mode on LPS, cat8.1, Zyxel switch on LPS, Finisar <1475BTL>Solarflare X2522-25G, external wifi AP, AMD 9 16 core, passive cooling ,Aorus Master x570, LPSU with Taiko ATX, 8Gb Apacer RAM, femto SSD on LPS, Pink Faun I2S ultra OCXO on akiko LPS, home grown RJ45 I2S cable, Metrum Adagio DAC3, RCA 70-A and Miyaima Zero for mono, G2 PL519 tube amps. Link to comment
Popular Post VoicesInMyHead Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 Well, I couldn't resist buying this NVME disk after all positive comments here so I'll fall in line and report my experience as well. I guess the frustration I had recently trying to install Windows 10 LTSC on my Intel Optane kind of helped my decision, long story short it of course wasn't the Optane's fault though. Turns out being a Mac user with no Windows in my life and then trying to install Windows is a real pain(!). Anyway, that is another story. The real reason for being convinced into buying was all the posts in this thread. Shipping with DHL Express was very fast which is always a good thing as getting new audio toys is like being a 5 year old kid on Christmas again, who has patience to wait?! It seems like I'm never getting too old for this. Unfortunately the shipping notice ended up in my spam folder so it actually arrived as a complete surprise. Packaging was also very good with lot's of cute pink bubble plastic, in fact so much that I almost wondered if there was anything else in the box for a second. 🤔 My main concern before purchasing was my ITX build in a H3 case, it's getting crowded with 2 JCAT cards, using an M.2 adapter for one of them and both M.2 connectors are located very close and just beneath the heat pipes to the CPU on the Asus z490-i motherboard. It looked like it was just about going to work though, even if it might be less than perfect having it that close to the CPU for heat purposes. I can just forget to install a heatsink for the NVME as it is right now though. Anyway, I thought if it doesn't work it will just give me another reason to get that H5 case and a full size ATX motherboard instead. ☺️ As the M.2 connectors are located on top of each others I couldn't close the lid when the DC cable was inserted, as a temporary solution I've got a simple right angle adapter until I decide what to do. I'm currently only using it for OS storage (Windows 10 LTSC), no music files. People would probably call us crazy for thinking that a hard drive impacts sound, but as we're constantly learning more or less everything in the digital domain seems to have an impact, some bigger than others. Even if the hard drive in itself is perhaps not making things sound different, the noise and disturbances it might cause for other components could very well be enough, that's at least my thinking regarding this. I don't claim to understand the why and how, I'm fine with accepting that everything indeed matters. I don't think I need to reiterate about what's already been said and explaining what I'm hearing in words is not my strong side, let me just summarize it with that soundwise I wasn't sure what to expect, especially coming from an already good Intel Optane option, but I think it has actually been a profound improvement, especially when using a dedicated 5V PSU to power it. My only concern now is that I need to look over my PSU situation as I'm not super happy about having 3 separate PSU's to power my server. As for this NVME disk, I'm having no regrets at all. 😊 Boomboy, Smaragdhk, darkforce and 6 others 2 7 Link to comment
Popular Post NewOldman Posted October 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2021 this ssd is a strong candidate for best buy 2021 damian101, NewOldman, Exocer and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment
Patatorz Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 On 10/3/2021 at 12:54 PM, Smaragdhk said: As discussed with @darkforce in PM this week, users testing this Femto drive (does it have an official name yet?) don't let yourself be discouraged when hearing some less wanted characteristics... the name seems to be « revelation audio ssd » :-) http://zzyzxphile.com/eng/products/revelation_audio_ssd/ Pascal64 1 Blog / Forum Link to comment
MarcelNL Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 great name IMO! Planning to now finally install the OS (latest Daphile RT beta) on it tonight, and see what that brings. NewOldman 1 ISP, glass to Fritz!box 5530, another Fritz!box 5530 for audio only in bridged mode on LPS, cat8.1, Zyxel switch on LPS, Finisar <1475BTL>Solarflare X2522-25G, external wifi AP, AMD 9 16 core, passive cooling ,Aorus Master x570, LPSU with Taiko ATX, 8Gb Apacer RAM, femto SSD on LPS, Pink Faun I2S ultra OCXO on akiko LPS, home grown RJ45 I2S cable, Metrum Adagio DAC3, RCA 70-A and Miyaima Zero for mono, G2 PL519 tube amps. Link to comment
DrPankratov Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Is there a way to install NVMe SSD in Mac Mini 2012? Link to comment
darkforce Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 Mac Mini 2012 should not support NVMe, I think the entire series of Mac Mini are too compact and not high enough to install this NVMe. Link to comment
Popular Post Exocer Posted November 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 10, 2021 Brief update on the Revelation SSD: I have switched from the DIY Oyaide 12AWG JSSG360 cable to a NeoTech UP-OCC cable, also JSSG360 treated (shorter in length). The latter sounded a bit more full, resolving and fleshed out than the former. The cable you use with the Revelation SSD has an impact on what you hear to some degree. I have another cable in my system that will need to be shortened (once I get the new HDPlex H5 chassis) and with the remaining wire I plan to build a new Mundorf SG DC lead for the Revelation SSD. Will report back on if the difference between this wire and the NeoTech are worthwhile here (YMMV of course). I briefly swapped out the Revelation SSD and started listening with my old Optane again for about a week. This was around the time I had performed a bunch of other system changes that were significant audible improvements, and, were still settling in. I was still happy with what I was hearing without the Revelation SSD (my mind had adjusted to adapt). Upon re-installing the Revelation SSD I was reminded of what what it brings to the table. More detail, more musicality, more PRAT, much better bass articulation and control. This drive is really special. Thanks again @ASRMichael for the tag and thanks @darkforce for the good conversation and support. Cheers, -Rob ASRMichael, NanoSword, beautiful music and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment
darkforce Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 One of our testers @Dev lost contact after end of October, I hope you contact us soon, thanks. Link to comment
Exocer Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 On 11/10/2021 at 1:26 PM, Exocer said: DIY Oyaide 12AWG Huge typo here. I meant 16awg. Link to comment
Smaragdhk Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 11/11/2021 at 2:26 AM, Exocer said: Will report back on if the difference between this wire and the NeoTech are worthwhile here (YMMV of course). Can you share a photos of this cable and some details on the model number? NeoTech seems tonnage different iterations of the UP-OCC. Link to comment
Exocer Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 46 minutes ago, Smaragdhk said: Can you share a photos of this cable and some details on the model number? NeoTech seems tonnage different iterations of the UP-OCC. It's a DIY cable. Currently installed and would rather not remove it to take a photo. It looks like a simple short cable with female GX-16 on one end and a right angle Oyaide 2.1/5.5mm barrel connector. It is made of 16awg Neotech UP-OCC Solid core copper wire. In this duty it works better than the previous wire I was using. Not a fair comparison due to the fact that one is less than half the length of the other. Link to comment
Smaragdhk Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Thanks, no worries, can you share a link to the actual raw cable on the NeoTech website? and what exactly is the JSSG360 treatment you’re referring to? Link to comment
Smaragdhk Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Never mind , thanks, found the JSSG stands for a shielding technique… has anyone else tried the NeoTech solid core be the non solid core version? Would love to hear other feedback as well. It looks like Ghent sells these cables online as well. Link to comment
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