bbosler Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 DAMN YOU GUYS !!!! You just cost me $3500 just kidding I just bought a gaming computer with 64G of ram and an Nvidia 3070 graphics card. I was lusting after one anyway for other reasons and now I had another excuse. Man, graphics cards are like gold these days.. I seriously doubt I end buying a PGGB license for one simple reason. Since getting hooked on streaming I don't own a copy of an awful lot of what I listen to regularly so nothing to process. If it turns out to be what you say I may have to rethink that. I do have a Terminator + so we'll see. In any case I intend to be flying around the world in Microsoft Flight Simulator. anybody tried digitizing vinyl and processing that? One thing I want to try is comparing upsampled file via USB >>> Hermes DDC >>> I2S >>> Terminator + which is limited to 16Fs and USB >>> Terminator + which will accept 32Fs Let the games begin !! NanoSword 1 see my system at Audiogon https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/768 Link to comment
bbosler Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 so how do you figure how big a file you can process given memory and virtual memory. I have 64G of ram and 460G of virtual memory on an SSD. I get an out of memory error trying to process a 256 DSD to 16FS file that is 265K. see my system at Audiogon https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/768 Link to comment
Popular Post bbosler Posted May 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 1, 2021 OK, I tried it. I processed a variety of files with the default settings in PGGB to 16FS. I played them back using HQplayer with all processing settings set to none , volume at 0dB. Mac Mini >>> HQP >>> USB >>> Denafrips Hermes DDC >>> I2S >>> Denafrips Terminator Plus set to NOS a little different but definitely not a "game changer." You may think the Mac Mini is the "problem" and maybe you are correct, but as is it sounds fantastic and no way I'll ever invest $25,000 in an Extreme computer to play music. Maybe it is the difference in a Chord DAVE and the T+. If that's the case is it possible you are compensating for inherent deficiencies in the DAVE that the T+ doesn't have? Maybe I just prefer the R2R with no processing versus whatever additional processing the DAVE does. It does strike me as being a bit extreme to use PGGB to upsample to 16FS and then the DAVE takes that file and upsamples it to 256FS. That said, if it works for you then I'm all for it ... for you. Not worth the trouble of converting and managing another library of files. Not worth buying all of the albums I really like that are included in my Tidal and Qobuz subscriptions. Not worth switching back and forth from Roon with HQP set to upsample when I stream to HQP alone and changing settings each time I want to listen to the PGGB files. . Not worth $500... I would rather have 15-20 new records. Not worth means not worth it to me. I'm glad you guys are enjoying this so much but in case you haven't figured it out ......this isn't for me. Enjoy, and thanks to Zaphod for helping me get it set up. Exocer and feelingears 2 see my system at Audiogon https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/768 Link to comment
bbosler Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Yes, I did set processing to 20 bits the T+ will do 32FS but the DDC will only do 16. I will try 32FS with USB direct to T+. My expectations are low but I have an open mind. So we all understand each other, I have my system to a point where I am very, very happy. Unless something just jumps out at me AND isn't a ton of $$ AND isn't a lot of effort I'm probably not going to go for it.. but I'll give it a shot. I'm not real enamored with wav files either due to the inability to encapsulate metadata I did ask Alvin about any plans to take the DDC line to 32FS. He said he preferred to listen at the native rate. No plans at this time. see my system at Audiogon https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/768 Link to comment
Popular Post bbosler Posted May 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2021 For closure in case anybody is interested.. I'm done with my evaluation of PGGB. I tried various files converted to 16FS then USB >>> DDC >>> I2S >>> Terminator + (DDC won't do 32FS) converted to 32FS then USB >>> Terminator + to me, better than native but no better than using HQP on the fly so I'm sticking with HQP. I certainly don't hear the dramatic , game changing improvements others report. Couple that with all of the hassles of dealing with the conversions and especially the fact that most of the digital I listen to is streaming from Tidal and Qobuz so would need to start buying those files and it is a no-brainer for me. glad to hear others are getting such good results and appreciate all of the effort going in to pushing the envelope. Zaphod Beeblebrox, feelingears and austinpop 3 see my system at Audiogon https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/768 Link to comment
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